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                        Mt. Holz Science Fiction Society
                    Club Notice - 03/09/90 -- Vol. 8, No. 36


       MEETINGS UPCOMING:

       Unless otherwise stated, all meetings are on Wednesdays at noon.
            LZ meetings are in LZ 2R-158.  MT meetings are in the cafeteria.

         _D_A_T_E                    _T_O_P_I_C

       (none scheduled at this time)

         _D_A_T_E                    _E_X_T_E_R_N_A_L _M_E_E_T_I_N_G_S/_C_O_N_V_E_N_T_I_O_N_S/_E_T_C.

       03/10   Science Fiction Association of Bergen County: Terry Bisson
                       (author of WYRLDMAKER and WALKING MAN)
                       (phone 201-933-2724 for details) (Saturday)
       04/21   NJSFS New Jersey Science Fiction Society: Josepha Sherman
                       (phone 201-432-5965 for details) (Saturday)

       HO Chair:      John Jetzt     HO 1E-525   834-1563  hocpa!jetzt
       LZ Chair:      Rob Mitchell   LZ 1B-306   576-6106  mtuxo!jrrt
       MT Chair:      Mark Leeper    MT 3D-441   957-5619  mtgzx!leeper
       HO Librarian:  Tim Schroeder  HO 3D-225A  949-5866  homxa!tps
       LZ Librarian:  Lance Larsen   LZ 3L-312   576-3346  lzfme!lfl
       MT Librarian:  Evelyn Leeper  MT 1F-329   957-2070  mtgzy!ecl
       Factotum:      Evelyn Leeper  MT 1F-329   957-2070  mtgzy!ecl
       All material copyright by author unless otherwise noted.

       1. Every time you look around things are  getting  dog-eat-doggier.
       Thirty  years  ago  things  were  sort  of  fixed.  America was the
       industrial giant.  The Big Three auto makers ruled the roost.  Bell
       Telephone  was  _t_h_e _g_i_a_n_t.  The Soviets did not really compete with
       us economically; they had their own non-competitive  system.   They
       competed with us a little technically, I suppose.  They put a cheap
       third-class radio transmitter into orbit.  We were  trying  to  see
       which  of  the two economic systems led to the larger nuclear bomb.
       But this was sort of an esoteric competition that, like  the  World
       Series,  we  watched but few participated in.  The Milky Way galaxy
       was just sort of an island universe.  On a clear  night  you  could
       see other galaxies, but they were pretty far away and we rarely saw
       the smoke from their campfires.












       THE MT VOID                                           Page 2



       In  the  90s  everything  is   competition.    The   Soviets   have
       restructured  for  internal  competition.  "Nyet on this 'from each
       according to his means, to each according to  his  needs.'   Da  on
       supermarkets  and  Burger  Kings.   No more walls.  Go if you like,
       trade where you like."  Europe is banding  together  into  its  own
       United  States  to  compete economically.  I don't have to tell _y_o_u
       about Bell and the Big Three autos.

       And now for the 90s the whole dang galaxy is in competition.   Wake
       up.   Take  a  look  at  what  is happening around you.  All of the
       matter of the galaxy is under the influence of  a  huge  competitor
       for  matter  ... the Great Attractor.  I am not kidding you.  It is
       150,000,000 light-years away and it  wants  to  "eat  your  lunch."
       Right  now  it looks to be a huge continent of hundreds of galaxies
       of dark matter.  That's why we haven't seen it until now.   Now,  I
       know  what you are telling yourself.  "150,000,000 light-years is a
       long, long way  off.   Why  worry?"   That's  what  General  Motors
       thought about Volkswagen.

       Just a few years ago we thought everyone in the universe  was  just
       traveling directly away from the site of the Big Bang.  Nobody knew
       where it was but we all were sure doing our best to  get  the  heck
       away because, who knows, it might happen again!  But now we are not
       just moving straight away--we are also veering to the right,  right
       towards the Great Attractor.  I am sure that the core of our galaxy
       is doing everything it can to keep us on course--I have always been
       a  great  fan of the core of our galaxy.  But the pull of the Great
       Attractor may seem pretty inviting out at the rim.

       These outer stars _m_u_s_t be made to realize the folly of their  ways.
       As  long as we were running away from the Big One at uniform speed,
       traffic problems were easily manageable.  If we are  all  going  to
       try  to  go  to  this  Great  Attractor fellow, we may not even get
       there.  Galaxies may collide with each other in their headlong rush
       to  become  part of the Great Attractor.  How long can it be before
       we start hearing reports of "near misses."

       I will keep an eye on the situation  and  let  you  know  when  the
       crisis  is  starting.   In the mean time, I suggest you stock up on
       canned goods.

       2. Lorraine Kevra has donated Diane Duane's _S_p_o_c_k'_s _W_o_r_l_d and Peter
       Morwood's  _S_t_a_r _T_r_e_k: _R_u_l_e_s _o_f _E_n_g_a_g_e_m_e_n_t to the LZ science fiction
       club library.  [-ecl]

                                          Mark Leeper
                                          MT 3D-441 957-5619
                                           ...mtgzx!leeper


            We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were
            beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganized.
            I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any
            new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method
            it can be for creating the illusion of progress while
            producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralization.
                                          --Petronius Arbiter, 210 B.C.










                               THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER
                           A film review by Mark R. Leeper
                            Copyright 1990 Mark R. Leeper



                 Capsule review:  Even though very much cut down from
            the novel, _T_h_e _H_u_n_t _f_o_r _R_e_d _O_c_t_o_b_e_r is a good action yarn
            with an air of authenticity.  While it is less of a film
            than fans of the book had hoped for, it is a crowd-
            pleaser.  Rating: +2.

            Tom Clancy created a new market for the techno-thriller genre of
       story-telling with his 1984 novel _T_h_e _H_u_n_t _f_o_r _R_e_d _O_c_t_o_b_e_r.  This genre
       is intended to tell a crackling good story about the military and at the
       same time include a lot of "executive summary" explanations about what
       equipment is used, how strategy is determined, and anything else about
       defense that comes up in the course of the story.  There was enough
       technical detail--though its accuracy has since been questioned--that
       the book became the first fiction publication of the Naval Institute
       Press, whose usual fare was dry reference material on subject matter
       such as tides.  The book quickly became that rarity today, a book that
       was not just a best-seller by its own admission, but also in the
       public's perception.  When _T_h_e _H_u_n_t _o_f _R_e_d _O_c_t_o_b_e_r made it to paperback,
       you saw _a _l_o_t of people reading the paperback.  (Personal note: shortly
       after the paperback came out, I read it on a boat with less than a
       hundred passengers and I saw at least three other copies being read.)
       Now that best-seller has been filmed.

            Part of the irony of the film coming out now is that while the
       source was greatly popular, it was all about the Cold War defense chess
       game that the NATO countries play with the Soviet Union.  It is quite
       possible that the genre that the book fostered is itself going to be the
       victim of new, friendlier relations with the Soviet Union as, at least
       in the public perception, the Cold War seems to be coming to an end.  I
       have yet to hear anyone say that the nuclear submarine fleet is being
       dismantled or that anyone has backed off of the edge-of-nuclear-war
       defense routine, so there may still be material for new techno-thrillers
       that work as something other than restricted period pieces.

            The reason that _T_h_e _H_u_n_t _f_o_r _R_e_d _O_c_t_o_b_e_r could still be filmed is
       that the plot did not include anything the public would have known about
       at the time so the film could still take the stance that this whole
       story is true and the proof is that both the Americans and the Soviets
       deny that it ever happened.  However, some of the edge is taken off the
       story because the book gets its real tension from the ever-present
       possibility that the events told will lead to a nuclear strike on the
       United States.  Read as a contemporary novel in 1984 or shortly after,
       that was a real possibility for what could take place in the story.
       That Sword-of-Damocles tension is missing from the film because--and I
       say this as only a minor spoiler--there do not appear to have been any











       Hunt for Red October         March 4, 1990                        Page 2



       nuclear strikes on major American cities at any time in the early 1980s.

            "On November 13, 1984, approximately four months before Mikhail
       Gorbachev took power in the Soviet Union" (the story begins), the
       Soviets had a new super-submarine, the Red October, which featured a
       nearly silent underwater jet-propulsion system.  This nifty little
       gimcrack has but one conceivable use.  It is unstoppable as a first-
       strike device that undetected could nuzzle up close to the American
       coastline and then start firing nuclear missiles.  And for the maiden
       voyage of the super-sub they had chosen to command their top submarine
       commander Marko Ramius (played by Sean Connery).  Their joy at this
       great Cold War victory was short-lived, however.  Ramius steals the Red
       October and heads it for parts unknown.  Now both sides desperately want
       to get their hands on the Red October and neither side knows for sure
       what Ramius intends to do with the submarine.

            It is, of course, impossible to take all of the action of a novel
       such as _T_h_e _H_u_n_t _f_o_r _R_e_d _O_c_t_o_b_e_r and put it into a film of standard
       length.  It is even more true with this novel than it would be for most
       novels, since the original was very heavy with military aircraft of many
       different sorts, very few of which made it to the film adaptation.  They
       seem to have whittled down the novel with a very large knife.  One of
       the most lamentable deletions was Ramius's actual motivation for doing
       what he is doing.  In the book that made the character what he was and
       added a very tragic dimension to his character and at the same time said
       something worth saying about life in the Soviet Union.  Perhaps in an
       efforts to make all its negative statements about the Soviets applicable
       _o_n_l_y to the pre-Gorbachev years, the film blunts its social statement
       that still might be applicable.  The bad guy of this film is a Soviet
       point of view that is seen as being strictly pre-Gorbachev.  Another
       lamented deletion, if only because I would have liked to see Industrial
       Light and Magic's visual rendering, is that there is no nuclear meltdown
       on a Soviet submarine. This scene was a descriptive centerpiece for the
       novel and it should have been a visual centerpiece of the film.

            That brings us to the visual effects that were in the film.  They
       were sufficient to tell the story and occasionally very nice indeed but
       surprisingly shoddy in other places.  One in particular that did not
       work is showing a torpedo coming at the viewer.  The technique they
       used, harkening back to effects of the 1960s, is to superimpose a
       picture of the torpedo on the background and then just increase the size
       of the inset picture.  You see this technique in films such as _R_o_b_i_n_s_o_n
       _C_r_u_s_o_e _o_n _M_a_r_s, which had a budget a small fraction of that of _T_h_e _H_u_n_t
       _f_o_r _R_e_d _O_c_t_o_b_e_r.  In truth, it is done better here but it still robs the
       scene of some of the three-dimensional effect.  The film also had a
       problem with some obvious matte lines.  I suspect, however, the films
       needs to take some liberties with visual effects if for no other reason
       than that seeing actual submarine fights at the proper depth it might be
       difficult for the viewer to see very much or to tell what is going on.
       The underwater visuals probably told the story more clearly than was
       realistic for them to tell it.











       Hunt for Red October         March 4, 1990                        Page 3



            Also adding to the effect is a score by a master film composer
       whose work is all too rarely heard, Basil Polidouris.  He has scored at
       least two films before on the them of American-Soviet relations, _R_e_d
       _D_a_w_n and _A_m_e_r_i_k_a, though his masterpiece was his rich and varied score
       for _C_o_n_a_n _t_h_e _B_a_r_b_a_r_i_a_n, by far the best thing about that film.  In _T_h_e
       _H_u_n_t _f_o_r _R_e_d _O_c_t_o_b_e_r, his score seems to have been influenced by the
       music of the Russian Army Chorus and Band.  And while it may not have
       been a very original or creative choice, it certainly was a proper one
       and the choral pieces do make for magnificent sections of music.

            Finally, some mention should be made of the casting.  Sean Connery,
       of course, was not the first choice for Ramius.  That choice was German
       actor Klaus Maria Brandauer whom Sean Connery defeated in _N_e_v_e_r _S_a_y
       _N_e_v_e_r _A_g_a_i_n and whom he beat one more time in the casting of _T_h_e _H_u_n_t
       _f_o_r _R_e_d _O_c_t_o_b_e_r.  I suspect Brandauer could have done Ramius a little
       better since he does not have a Scottish accent.  And perhaps to the
       ears of the public a German accent sounds more Russian than a Scottish
       one does.  However, if the public thinks that Edinburgh-raised Connery
       does not sound sufficiently Russian, the producers could counter that he
       really is not supposed to be.  Ramius is not Russian--he is Lithuanian!
       Actually, accents brings up one of the film's major implausibilities.
       It is hard to believe that any Biblical passage, no matter how powerful,
       could make an entire Soviet submarine crew speak English and not even
       realize they were doing it.  (That's an inside joke for people who have
       seen the film.)

            Second lead went to Alec Baldwin as CIA analyst Jack Ryan, a
       continuing character in Clancy's novels.  Baldwin, who played the
       somewhat simpy ghost-husband in _B_e_e_t_l_e_j_u_i_c_e, is actually a very good
       Ryan, a family man with a fear of flying who also has just a bit of
       Sherlock Holmes in him.  He has a very winning combination of high
       competence and vulnerability.  Like Ramius, he is also a renegade with
       very strong opinions.  One of the nice touches of the script (and
       counter to the cliche) is that while Ramius has actually read Ryan's
       books on military history, he does not think very much of them.

            _T_h_e _H_u_n_t _f_o_r _R_e_d _O_c_t_o_b_e_r has a heavy sprinkling of familiar faces
       in other roles.  Scott Glenn is crisp as submarine captain Marcuso.  Sam
       Neill is a little too sugary as Ramius's second-in-command.  Then there
       is James Earl Jones, Joss Ackland, Richard Jordan (in a role as a wily
       politician that is somewhat of a departure for him), Peter Firth, Tim
       Curry (as the Red October's goggle-eyed surgeon), and Jeffrey Jones.

            While this seems more a Readers' Digest condensation of the Clancy
       novel, much scaled down for the big screen, it certainly is a good
       adventure yarn, particularly welcome because it was not saved for a
       summertime release.  I rate it a +2 on the -4 to +4 scale.



















                    GRUMBLES FROM THE GRAVE by Robert A. Heinlein
                      Del Rey, 1989, ISBN 0-345-36246-2, $19.95.
                          A book review by Evelyn C. Leeper
                           Copyright 1990 Evelyn C. Leeper



            This collection of letters and letter excerpts was apparently
       planned by Heinlein before his death as a way to provide some income to
       his widow.  (Of course, the royalties his books continue to collect help
       as well.)  The letters cover a wide range of topics, concentrating
       mostly on his writing style, but also covering cats, houses, politics,
       fans, penguins, and just about everything else.  There are a few cases
       in which names have been omitted, on the advice of his lawyers, and many
       of the letters are excerpted rather than included in full.

            Now, everyone else has oohed and aahed over this book, and I don't
       mean to rain on their parade, but as someone who did _n_o_t grow up reading
       Heinlein, I just can't get that excited about this book.  (My childhood
       was spent reading John W. Campbell's _T_h_e _M_o_o_n _I_s _H_e_l_l and "Black Star"
       series, which probably explains why I've ended up the way I have, but
       that was what my library had.)  My personal opinion (which you are free
       to ignore, of course) is that Heinlein wrote some great short stories
       and some okay novels--and some really bad novels as well.  Given that, I
       don't view this book as the Apocrypha of a great body of work, an
       appellation more suited to L. Ron Hubbard than to Heinlein anyway
       (though with _S_t_r_a_n_g_e_r _i_n _a _S_t_r_a_n_g_e _L_a_n_d one might make the religious
       connection for Heinlein as well).  It is of interest, but no more or
       less so to me than a similar book of another's author's letters would
       be.  I found the parts dealing with his writing more interesting than
       the parts discussing the building of his house, for example.  On the
       other hand, I would go into ecstasy over a book of Olaf Stapledon's
       letters, so let that tell you something about my tastes.

            In any case, as they say, your mileage may vary.































                                      Boskone 27
                                       (Part 1)
                  Con report by Evelyn C. Leeper and Mark R. Leeper
                  Copyright 1989 Evelyn C. Leeper and Mark R. Leeper


            [This con report is a joint effort.  Most of the general
       information has been written by Evelyn; the panels on which Mark is
       reporting are so labeled.]

            Boskone was at last able to move back to Presidents' Day weekend,
       though with fewer people getting this "holiday" off work than in the
       past, the programming was limited to Friday evening through Sunday
       night.  Just as last year, traffic was wretched between Hartford and
       Springfield, leading me to believe it is now a permanent traffic jam, at
       least in winter.  (I suspect skiers heading north on Friday make the
       situation worse, since our summertime trips don't seem to meet these
       delays.)

            Mark's and my registration materials were both in the Green Room as
       planned.  (Since Boskone doesn't pre-stuff envelopes but hands out the
       loose items, all this meant was that the badges had to be in the right
       place.)  Upon reading my schedule I discovered that they had scheduled
       me for an autograph session!  On the participant's form, they had asked
       "Should we schedule you for an autograph session?" and I had jokingly
       answered, "Yes, but I have no books."  I had also added that it was a
       joke, but the person scheduling didn't see that, so there I was.  (I
       eventually found the person and un-scheduled myself; apparently no horde
       of fans were waiting for my autograph anyway!)

                                        Hotels

            They had finished the construction that made travel between the
       Tara and the Marriott so difficult last year, so the easiest way was out
       the door and across the street.  The only problem with this was that it
       was very cold and windy and unless you carted your coat around with you
       it was not inviting.  The seating space in the hotel areas near the
       meeting rooms was less than last year, but still sufficient, and fans
       when necessary will sit on the floor anyway.

            Whereas last year there was a shortage of hotel rooms, this year
       Boskone didn't make its block, but did turn back the sixty extra rooms
       in time for the hotels to re-sell them (at higher rates!) to the general
       public, probably skiers.

                                    Dealers' Rooms

            The setup of having a dealers' room in each hotel continued, and
       will for the forseeable future.  There just isn't enough space in any
       one room to put all the dealers there without seriously impacting the
       programming.











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            Some people said there were too many books in the dealers' rooms.
       Impossible!  Well, it is true that some of the dealers feel that there
       may be more book dealers than a 1000-person Boskone (which this was) can
       support, but no one seems to want to be the one cut out, so they'll just
       have to live with it, I suppose.  They could always pull themselves out
       if they were losing money.  I found out later that the dealers' room is
       mostly books because a certain percentage of the space is reserved for
       book dealers, and that in addition, they pay a cheaper rate for the
       space.

            In any case, I had a chance to talk to several of the regulars.  I
       discussed the Readercon Small Press Awards with Greg Ketter, owner of
       Dreamhaven Books in Minneapolis and another judge on the panel.  I also
       stopped by Mary Southworth's table.  She has just opened a mystery and
       science fiction shop in Saratoga Springs in upstate New York.  Her table
       used to be a bastion of used books; now it seems to be mostly new, and
       in addition they are all filed together, so you can't look through just
       the used books (for example).  And, of course, this also means that
       there are far fewer used books, since her table space hasn't increased.
       Dick Spelman was there, with all new books--and right across from Mary.
       I can't help but feel that her new sales were lower because of the
       competition.

            (I also managed to accumulate a lot of old issues of _A_m_a_z_i_n_g and
       _F_a_n_t_a_s_t_i_c from the freebie table where someone got rid of a couple of
       hundred old magazines.)

                                       Art Show

            I got to the Art Show only once, and found it again of little
       interest.  They seem to have turned into a combination of bad art for
       sale and good art marked NFS ("Not For Sale"), which someone has pointed
       out seem to be mostly large advertisements for the print shop.  It is
       nice that the print shop has some affordable art, but it used to be that
       the originals were affordable.

                                     Film Program

            The film program consisted of science fiction films without special
       effects.  Films included _C_h_a_r_l_y, _A_l_p_h_a_v_i_l_l_e, _A_r_o_u_n_d _t_h_e _W_o_r_l_d _i_n _E_i_g_h_t_y
       _D_a_y_s, _T_h_e _M_a_n _i_n _t_h_e _W_h_i_t_e _S_u_i_t, _A _C_o_n_n_e_c_t_i_c_u_t _Y_a_n_k_e_e _i_n _K_i_n_g _A_r_t_h_u_r'_s
       _C_o_u_r_t, _Q_u_i_n_t_e_t, and _S_e_c_o_n_d_s.  Good choices, but since I have already
       seen them all (and have several of them on videotape) I had no great
       desire to spend my convention time watching them.

                                     Programming

            The science track seems to have vanished, though there were a
       couple of items that might qualify--such as a panel on lab accidents.
       Somehow this is not the same as a real scientist talking about what's
       happening.











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                                   The First Night

            When we arrived Laurie Mann asked if we wanted to join her at
       Champions (the hotel bar) for a quick snack.  This sounded good until we
       got there and discovered the decibel level was such that no conversation
       would be possible.  So she went off to grab something in the staff
       lounge, and we made a quick pass through both dealers' rooms and, sure
       enough, found Dave, Kate, and Barbara just outside the Tara one.  (I
       also grabbed up three books for a friend in one as I was whipping
       through.)

            Since they wanted to try the Student Prince's "game festival," we
       went there.  I had bear stew; Mark had pheasant.  The bear was not
       strong-tasting and very tender.  Mark's pheasant, on the other hand, had
       a very strong flavor.

            We returned too late for the "Meet the VIPs" party, so went
       directly to the Noreascon 3 party.  First we had a long discussion with
       Laurie, culminating in our decision that she was really a neo, since she
       hadn't attended Noreascon _1.  Then we got into an extended discussion
       with Eric Van about Readercon and Gene Wolfe.  I complained that given
       that Readercon has rock-'n'-roll panels, and was thinking about having
       an art show next year, it was getting just too media-oriented.  Eric
       defended the rock-'n'-roll panels by saying that rock-'n'-roll has
       lyrics; I countered by pointing out that movies have dialogue.  I think
       I was awarded the point.

            Then Dave started in baiting Eric about Gene Wolfe, saying that he
       thought Wolfe a boring writer.  (He does think this, but admitted to us
       later that he was perhaps more argumentative than he might have
       otherwise been.)  Much of the argument was about semantics: Eric said
       that Wolfe was provably the best respected writer in the field, which
       Dave chose to interpret as saying that Wolfe was provably the best
       writer in the field.  (And yes, I mean "provably," not "probably.")  The
       former claim can be tested: just count up reviewers' opinions.   The
       latter is, however, not "provable" in any objective fashion.  In spite
       of all this, we spent more than a half-hour arguing about this topic,
       which led Mark to label Dave as "the goy who fried Wolfe."

            We also discussed the Kirk Poland Bad Prose Contest, which in spite
       of previous assurances will be held this year at Readercon.  Eric says
       after this year they will give it a rest, but I've heard this before.
       Luckily, it is being held separately from the awards ceremony so I will
       not be forced to attend.

            We finally left about 1 AM.  On the way out we passed a stuck
       elevator--containing Robert Colby and Eric Van.  Well, at least they had
       a chance to do some more planning for Readercon!

            When we finally got back to Dave's house and got out of the car, we
       heard the most amazing noises.  After a couple of seconds, I realized











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       what it was.  It was the ice that covered the trees creaking, clacking,
       melting, and falling.  For a normally quiet area, it was extremely
       noisy!

                                 _S_F _S_p_e_c_i_a_l_t_y _H_o_u_s_e_s
                                   Saturday, 11 AM
               David Hartwell (mod), Darrell Schweitzer, Brian Thomsen,
                                  Gordon Van Gelder

            Apparently one of the great advantages of being a specialty house
       (a.k.a. "small press") is that you can get away with a lot more without
       being sued.  David Hartwell gave the example of Paul O. Williams's
       upcoming book on the "100 Best Rock 'n' Roll Songs." Normally, one must
       pay royalties when one quotes a song.  However, this would have run into
       somewhere between $50,000 and $100,000 for royalties alone, so Williams
       went to a small press to have the book published sans royalty payments
       on the theory that the Beatles et al would not think it worthwhile to
       sue someone with hardly any money.  (Apparently the idea that being in
       such a book would be good publicity is not likely to occur to the
       Beatles et al, and as one panelist pointed out, the Beatles do not
       really need this publicity anyway.)

            This is not to say that small presses are dishonest.  True, some
       take a long time to pay the authors their royalties, but you also have
       people such as Lloyd Eshbach, who sold off his own collection to pay off
       Fantasy Press's debts when it went under.

            One area in which small presses specialize is the limited edition.
       Here the opportunities for fraud, or at least something resembling
       fraud, abound.  A publisher may, for example, claim that a book has been
       published in a limited, numbered edition of 500 copies.  But s/he may
       also produce another 26 lettered copies as presentation copies.  This is
       not unusual, and is frequently openly announced.  But it may go further,
       and a hundred presentation copies be produced, or more.  For a large
       print run an extra hundred copies is insignificant; for a "limited
       edition" it can have a major impact on the scarcity, and hence the
       value.

            The upshot of all this is that the panelists look very askance at
       the limited edition field.  There are some genuine limited editions, but
       people looking for books as an investment would do better to buy
       ordinary first editions of future "mega-authors."  Early Stephen King
       novels, for example, are quite valuable, as are 1950s hardcover editions
       of such authors as Heinlein and Farmer.  The trick, of course, is in
       knowing who will become popular.  If you can do that, you belong in the
       publishing industry to start with.  A very small print run, or the
       accidental destruction of most of the print run, can increase the value
       of "large press" books as well; examples given included first editions
       of Jonathan Carroll's _L_a_n_d _o_f _L_a_u_g_h_s, Gene Wolfe's _S_h_a_d_o_w _o_f _t_h_e
       _T_o_r_t_u_r_e_r, Roger Zelazny's _N_i_n_e _P_r_i_n_c_e_s _i_n _A_m_b_e_r, and R. A. Lafferty's
       _F_a_l_l _o_f _R_o_m_e.  (First editions of first books in series that later











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       become enormously popular are good bets.)  Something else that can make
       a book valuable is its poor construction--yes, _p_o_o_r construction.
       Giger's _N_e_c_r_o_n_o_m_i_c_o_n is valuable because it is so large and so poorly
       bound, that most copies have already fallen apart.  So if yours is in
       one piece, you have something unusual.  But I digress.

            Even less honest than the "limited edition" ploy is the technique
       of choosing authors for an anthology such that the autograph plate is
       what is valuable.  Hartwell cited Don Herron's _R_e_i_g_n _o_f _F_e_a_r (published
       by Underwood-Miller) in which a couple of authors whose autographs were
       valuable seem to have been chosen solely for that reason.  What you have
       then is the situation in which the book is little more than an extremely
       fancy ad for the autograph plate.

            The nostalgia of older fans is something else that small presses
       have tried to cater to (or capitalize on, depending on your point of
       view), yet this is generally unsuccessful.  There aren't enough older
       fans buying small press books to support a publication aimed just at
       them.  An example of this that was given was an attempt to reprint
       Nelson Bond's books.  I have to agree that this was not likely to reach
       the latest generation of fans, but I suspect something like the Donald
       Wandrei collection just issued may be more successful.

            Another stumbling block is overprinting.  A book that is a
       financial success in a print run of 500 copies, may lose money in a
       print run of 750.  The margin may, in fact, be even tighter.  This is
       not the same thing, by the way, as the deliberate overrun of a "limited
       edition."  If anything, I suppose it is the reverse, and has the reverse
       effect.  A deliberate overrun in limited editions often results in more
       profit for the publisher, while overestimating demand results in a loss.

            One area in which the small press has been very successful is the
       collection/anthology field.  According to Darrell Schweitzer, the small
       press has "taken this area away" from the larger press.  This may be
       true of the critically acclaimed collections and anthologies in
       hardcover, but there are still a lot of good anthologies out there in
       the "large press."

            Another aspect of the small press is that it can publish books
       cheaply.  Robert Price was cited as someone who has published several
       books of bad poetry and _T_h_e _C_r_y_p_t _o_f _C_t_h_u_l_h_u.  Since they cost only a
       few dollars apiece, he is able to sell enough of them to pay for the
       print run of a few hundred, whereas a large publisher could never sell
       enough to pay for their minimum print run in the thousands.

            From a bookseller's point of view, the small press is a problem.
       To attract the buyers away from the mainstream bookstores, a specialty
       science fiction shop or mail order business has to offer them, yet
       unlike most books they are unreturnable to the publisher for credit.
       This means a bookseller has to have a very good idea of how many s/he
       can sell, or be willing to keep a large backlog.  In addition, the











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       discounts given by small presses to dealers are minimal.

            At some point, the term "self-published" was mentioned.  When I
       asked how this was different from a vanity press, Schweitzer replied
       that the difference was the profit motive.  "Self-published" authors
       plan on making a profit; authors using a vanity press usually do not.
       This led to a discussion of whether Bridge Publications is a vanity
       press; the panelists seemed to feel that its main function was to make
       L. Ron Hubbard respectable.  (Schweitzer suggested a panel on "Great
       Science Fiction Frauds: L. Ron Hubbard, Whitley Streiber, and Beyond.")

            I finally asked for a definition of "small press."  Apparently
       Readercon has one ("a small press is one that supports fewer than two
       people full-time") but didn't bother to let the judges know.  Someone on
       the panel pointed out that by this definition, _F&_S_F was a small press.
       (I asked Robert Colby about this later; he said that there were some
       additional rules, and one was that any magazine ineligible for the
       semi-prozine or fanzine Hugos because of circulation was no longer
       considered "small press.")

            When asked what they would like to see the small press do, the
       panelists seemed to like the idea of a horror series similar to Lin
       Carter's "Adult Fantasy Series."  But they would prefer to see this more
       as reading copies than as collectibles.  (That makes sense--they want
       people to have a chance to read the stuff!)

                            _W_r_i_t_i_n_g _A_b_o_u_t _t_h_e _U_n_t_h_i_n_k_a_b_l_e
                                  Saturday, 11:00 AM
                  James Morrow (mod), Bruce Coville, Kathryn Cramer,
                                Patrick Neilsen-Hayden
                             [written by Mark R. Leeper]

            This panel was a sort of a counterpoint to the midnight panels
       where the panelists tend to be thinking about the unwritable.  Here
       instead was a discussion of catastrophe and Armageddon in science
       fiction.  James Morrow, who moderated, opened the panel with three
       discussion questions:

         1.  What is the morality of writing about a serious subject such as
             the Apocalypse "for fun and profit"?

         2.  Why is there an almost sexual fascination with Armageddon?

         3.  In the light of recent events in Eastern Europe, has nuclear war
             lost its place as a theme of science fiction?

            It was these three interesting questions that the panelists
       proceeded to ignore in the discussion.  Cramer made the observation that
       almost by definition there is something optimistic about Armageddon
       fiction.  After all, these stories pretty much have to be told by
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       disasters differently.  Two decades ago the common perception was that
       the major disasters threatened us all.  The view in fiction was that the
       whole world would buy it.  Today we have grown used to the threat of
       disaster and we think more in terms of how to protect ourselves
       individually.  Rather than worrying about the dam breaking and what can
       be done to stop it, people now think more in terms of finding a plot of
       land on high ground.  Back at the turn of the century the literature did
       not look so much at survival at all but at the effects and horror of the
       disaster.  Their with descriptions of disasters were punctuated with
       images of screaming women carrying dead babies.  There is far less of
       that in current fiction.

            Coville picked up on the need to have a survivor, saying that no
       matter how bad things get in the catastrophe story, it should leave the
       reader with the impression that there is some hope so as to give the
       reader the strength to go on.  I personally disagree here since the only
       hope that need be present is that the disasters have not yet happened.
       Probably the best apocalyptic novel I can point to is Philip Wylie's _E_n_d
       _o_f _t_h_e _D_r_e_a_m, and there is little doubt that that novel ends within
       minutes of the end of mankind.  Coville sees us as what he called the
       "disempowered generation."  Disasters before the 1950s dealt with either
       anarchist plots or Martians causing the disaster.  There is more of a
       sense now that we are all part of a machine moving to its own
       destruction.  (I am not sure that _T_h_e _P_o_i_s_o_n _B_e_l_t or _T_h_e _P_u_r_p_l_e _C_l_o_u_d
       were really happening to a more "empowered" generation.)  It is no
       longer aliens or anarchists at fault, but we all are in small part the
       people bringing about the end.

            Morrow, who now has children, saw that as a need for optimism in
       spite of the fact that even the home, once the bastion of security, is
       now besieged by radon gas and electro-magnetic radiation.  Still, there
       is some solace that the predictions of disaster are not all that
       accurate.  In the 1970s Paul Ehrlich predicted the 1980s as being a
       decade of world-wide starvation.  The truth was not nearly so bad.

            Neilsen-Hayden saw a fascinating deconstruction in apocalyptic
       stories.  In _T_h_e _W_a_r _o_f _t_h_e _W_o_r_l_d_s Wells wanted to show that society is
       vulnerable and power is transient.  Neilsen-Hayden enjoys seeing boring,
       self-important Victorians meeting screaming death by heat rays.
       Neilsen-Hayden enjoys a sort of lyrical beauty in the destruction of
       Earth at the end of _F_o_r_g_e _o_f _G_o_d.

            Morrow warned against writers making the reader identify too
       closely with the survivor since that breeds a sort of complacency.  To
       me a prime example would be _W_h_e_n _W_o_r_l_d_s _C_o_l_l_i_d_e, but his example was
       _A_l_a_s, _B_a_b_y_l_o_n, a novel that he found "immoral" for this reason.  Cramer,
       carrying on with this idea, suggested that in the really classic
       disasters--the Biblical stories of Noah's Flood and the destruction of
       Sodom and Gomorrah--the people who were killed were evil and we are the
       descendants of the good people who were saved.  While this attitude
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       ethno-centricity, it did show up in real life after the recent San
       Francisco earthquake.  The attitude was that there is availability of
       information on where the fault lines lie and what the effects of quakes
       are on cities.  The people who ignored this information were stupid and
       that is why they died.

            With the assistance of David Hartwell in the audience, the
       conversation turned to why there is not a great literature of disasters.
       There are no really good novels written about disasters with the
       possible exception of Brunner.  (I am surprised there was no mention of
       Ballard.)  When the literature shifted to man-made disasters in the
       1950s, it became harder to do a dramatic story about responses to the
       disaster.  With billions of people participating in the cause of the
       disaster you cannot do a good story about the man who saves the world by
       recycling.

            Cramer expressed the opinion that in the last hundred years we have
       started living longer but, ironically, in more fear.  It may actually be
       more tragic to be aware of so many threats, most of which are held at
       bay, and finally to be gotten by one, than simply to remain unaware of
       them and "to be squashed like a bug."  She also feels that in some ways
       the apocalyptic story has to be stylistically similar to the utopian
       story.  While they are basically opposite in their implications, one
       positive, one negative, they really are similar in that each must be
       told by someone actually in the society experiencing the fate of that
       society.

            From the audience Hartwell suggested that we really have a need to
       feel that society will get either much better or much worse.  He has
       gotten complaints for teaching and recommending _3_3_4 by Thomas Disch.  It
       describes a future society neither much better nor much worse than our
       own.

            The apocalyptic story is one in which the proceedings cannot be
       described objectively, Cramer suggested.  In a real apocalypse there is
       no way for the main character to remain detached.  Coville added that
       readers prefer that the narrator not remain detached anyway.  Readers
       will want to know how things looked and felt during the Apocalypse.
       People want to see the effect on the individual.  After the San
       Francisco quake, the first thing people wanted to know was what was
       being in the quake like.  Someone in the audience said actually people
       first wanted to know how many were killed.  After that, however, they
       wanted first-hand descriptions of the experience and pictures so they
       could better imagine it.

            Finally, Morrow discussed the emotional impact of the apocalyptic
       novel.  Real despair, he said, is in seeing no choices.  For this reason
       he does not like _A _C_a_n_t_i_c_l_e _f_o_r _L_e_i_b_o_w_i_t_z which he thinks "does not have
       the pain."

                                  [to be continued]