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                        Mt. Holz Science Fiction Society
                    Club Notice - 04/02/93 -- Vol. 11, No. 40


       MEETINGS UPCOMING:

       Unless otherwise stated, all meetings are in Holmdel 4N-509
            Wednesdays at noon.

         _D_A_T_E                    _T_O_P_I_C

       04/21  ARISTOI by Walter Jon Williams
                       (If This--AI, Virtual Reality, Nanotech--Goes On)
       05/12  THOMAS THE RHYMER by Ellen Kushner (Fantasy in a Modern Vein)
       06/02  WORLD AT THE END OF TIME by Frederik Pohl
                       (Modern Stapledonian Fiction)
       06/23  CONSIDER PHLEBAS by Iain Banks
                       (Space Opera with a Knife Twist)
       07/14  SIGHT OF PROTEUS by Charles Sheffield (Human Metamorphosis)

       Outside events:
       The Science Fiction Association of Bergen County meets on the second
       Saturday of every month in Upper Saddle River; call 201-933-2724 for
       details.  The New Jersey Science Fiction Society meets on the third
       Saturday of every month in Belleville; call 201-432-5965 for details.

       HO Chair:     John Jetzt        HO 1E-525  908-834-1563 holly!jetzt
       LZ Chair:     Rob Mitchell      HO 1C-523  908-834-1267 holly!jrrt
       MT Chair:     Mark Leeper       MT 3D-441  908-957-5619 mtgzfs3!leeper
       HO Librarian: Nick Sauer        HO 4F-427  908-949-7076 homxc!11366ns
       LZ Librarian: Lance Larsen      LZ 3L-312  908-576-3346 quartet!lfl
       MT Librarian: Mark Leeper       MT 3D-441  908-957-5619 mtgzfs3!leeper
       Factotum:     Evelyn Leeper     MT 1F-329  908-957-2070 mtgpfs1!ecl
       All material copyright by author unless otherwise noted.

       1. I recently wrote about some of the dilemmas being faced  because
       somebody  in  the  local  town  of Marlboro claims to have seen and
       continues to see the Virgin Mary appearing in his backyard.   There
       actually  is more to write on that story, with billboards springing
       up all over declaring that you can call an 800-number to  find  out
       what Mary has to say.  I may follow up on this in a future issue.

       Normally Jews just sort of sit back and half-smile at some  of  the
       strange  manifestations  of  other  religions  around them.  By and
       large Judaism tends to avoid this sort of thing and  remain  fairly











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       stable  and  unaffected  by  the  passage  of  time.  Big events in
       Judaism tend to be changes in philosophy  that  can  be  argued  by
       scholars.   One group will suddenly declare that you do not have to
       believe in God to be Jewish and other branches  will  go  back  and
       look  in  their  books and try to find arguments that you really do
       have to be a  believer  to  be  Jewish.   This  is  all  done  with
       relatively little in the way of hard feeling or fanaticism.

       1993 is shaping up to be as weird a year in Judaism  as  it  is  in
       some  other  religions.   The  smaller of two weirdnesses that have
       come to my attention is a new service where you _f_a_x  a  message  to
       God.   There  is  one  group  in Jerusalem who will accept messages
       faxed to them and place them in  the  Western  Wall  in  Jerusalem.
       Placing  written  messages  in  the  Wall  has  for many years been
       considered by some to be a special channel.  Now for the  price  of
       the  phone  call,  you  can  send  your  message direct to God.  Of
       course, if you  believe  in  placing  messages  in  the  Wall,  you
       probably   also  believe  in  prayer  which  is  probably  just  as
       effective, cheaper, and does not  require  special  equipment,  and
       nobody  has  to  come  along and remove you prayer to make room for
       others.

       The really weird news is that a small subset of Jews in  New  York,
       the  Lubavitch  Jews, have decided that their rabbi is so great, he
       is at last the Messiah.  Rabbit Menachem Schneerson does not appear
       to have ever made this claim of himself and is now too old and sick
       to say one way or the other, but his followers are  taking  ads  in
       newspapers  declaring  him  to be.  Outside the Lubavitch Jews this
       announcement is being met with ... well, extreme  skepticism  would
       be  putting  it  mildly.  But it will be of some interest to see if
       somebody is going to write an alternate and Newer  Testament  about
       Schneerson.   Who would write it?  Will they start to celebrate his
       birthday with a holiday?  The whole  concept  is  a  little  weird.
       Anyway, that is just my opinion.

       2. Congratulations to librarian Nick Sauer  on  the  birth  of  his
       daughter Alia (sp?) on March 19.  [-ecl]

       3. Overheard at the last meeting, in reference to being  a  popular
       author  but never winning a Hugo: "Vernor Vinge is the Al Pacino of
       science fiction." [-ecl]


                                          Mark Leeper
                                          MT 3D-441 908-957-5619
                                           ...mtgzfs3!leeper



            Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play.  It is
            bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard
            of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing
            violence: in other words it is war minus the shooting.
                                          -- George Orwell












                                    Boskone 30
                                  (Part 3 of 3)
                          Con report by Evelyn C. Leeper
                         Copyright 1993 Evelyn C. Leeper


                             Comedy in SF and Fantasy
                                  Sunday, 11 AM
              Connie Willis (mod), Bradley Denton, Esther Friesner,
                 Craig Shaw Gardner, Laura Ann Gilman, Jeff Hecht

            The first thing I learned from this panel is that it is
       impossible to convey a humorous panel in print, but this will be my
       humble attempt.

            One of the first questions after everyone on the panel
       mentioned their latest or funniest books was what people answer when
       asked, "Why do you write funny fantasy?" Friesner said she does it
       to aggravate people who ask.  Someone once read something of hers
       and said, "You're not from this planet."  She wasn't sure if that
       was supposed to be a compliment or not.  The question, "Why do you
       write funny fantasy?" seems odd; did people ask P. G. Wodehouse why
       he wrote humor?  On the other hand, Woody Allen said, "If you write
       comedy, you are not sitting at the adult table."

            Someone asked if the panelists enjoyed writing humor, because
       most writers seem to say they hate writing in general.  Willis
       responded, "I loathe and despise every moment of my writing career.
       I hate writing."  The panelists felt that writing comedy is
       _t_e_c_h_n_i_c_a_l_l_y much more difficult than writing a serious book,
       especially these days with what someone called the "That's not
       funny" generation.  (Political correctness seemed to be a running
       thread through the convention.)  On the other hand, some people felt
       that political correctness was a boon.  Denton announced that his
       new novel _B_l_a_c_k_b_u_r_n has been objected to on moral grounds, so he's
       hoping sales will skyrocket!  And Willis said, "I am pleased beyond
       measure to do irreparable harm to the radical feminist movement."

            Denton talked about reading a section of a work of his in which
       one of the male protagonist's gets shot, first in the crotch and
       then in the eye.  After the first shot, the audience laughed, but
       after the second there was a shocked silence, after which Denton
       concluded that "the difference between comedy and tragedy is getting
       shot in the balls or shot in the eye."  As far as _v_e_r_b_o_t_e_n topics
       for humor, Friesner felt that harm to children was out.  Hecht said
       that he wouldn't write anything that would cause pain to someone he
       knew.

            No panel on comedy in science fiction and fantasy would be
       complete without recommendations, so here they are: the "Burke
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       Frederic Brown, _S_t_a_l_k_i_n_g _t_h_e _A_n_g_e_l by Robert Crais (Bantam, 1992,
       $4.99), _T_h_e _I_n_c_o_m_p_l_e_t_e _E_n_c_h_a_n_t_e_r by L. Sprague deCamp, "The Santa
       Claus Compromise" by Thomas M. Disch (in Harry Harrison and Brian
       Aldiss's _B_e_s_t _S_F: _1_9_7_5), "Melpomene, Calliope ... and Fred" by
       Nicholas V. Yermakov (someone said this was George Alec Effinger,
       but I'm not sure that's correct) (available in Arthur Saha's _Y_e_a_r'_s
       _B_e_s_t _F_a_n_t_a_s_y _S_t_o_r_i_e_s: _7), the "Cathy" cartoons by Cathy Guisewite,
       "Stable Strategies for Middle Management" by Eileen Gunn, the
       "Stainless Steel Rat" series by Harry Harrison, _E_x_p_e_c_t_i_n_g _S_o_m_e_o_n_e
       _T_a_l_l_e_r and _W_h_o'_s _A_f_r_a_i_d _o_f _B_e_o_w_u_l_f?  (Ace, 1990, $4.50; Ace, 1991,
       $4.50) by Tom Holt, _T_h_r_e_e _M_e_n _i_n _a _B_o_a_t by Jerome K. Jerome
       (Penguin, 1978, $5.95), the "Pogo" strips by Walt Kelly, _B_l_u_e _H_e_a_v_e_n
       and _P_u_t_t_i_n_g _o_n _t_h_e _R_i_t_z by Joe Keenan (Penguin, 1988, $7.95;
       Penguin, 1992, $10), _A_p_p_a_r_e_n_t _W_i_n_d by Dallas Murphy (Pocket Books,
       1991, $4.99), various works of Lewis Padgett, _D_i_e _f_o_r _L_o_v_e and _N_a_k_e_d
       _O_n_c_e _M_o_r_e (Tor, 1991, $3.99; Warner, 1990, $4.95) by Elizabeth
       Peters, "Mail Supremacy" by Hayford Peirce (available in Isaac
       Asimov and Martin Greenberg's _1_0_0 _S_h_o_r_t _S_h_o_r_t _S_F _S_t_o_r_i_e_s,
       _G_o_o_d _O_m_e_n_s by Neil Gaiman (this was mentioned by someone who
       recommended all of Terry Pratchett's works and then mentioned this
       specifically, forgetting this wasn't written by Pratchett) (Berkley,
       1992, $8.95) various works by Richard Rankin, the "Samurai Cat"
       works by Mark E. Rogers, various works by Thorne Smith, the
       "Aquiliad" series by Somtow Sucharitkul (a.k.a. S. M. Somtow),
       almost anything by Howard Waldrop, and _C_o_s_m_i_c _B_a_n_d_i_t_o_s by
       A. C. Weisbecker (Vintage, 1986, $5.95).

            (Making this list makes me wonder if all these recommendations
       that people make on panels are actually used by anyone.  If I
       hadn't been trying to take notes for a convention report, I wouldn't
       be able to tell you what was recommended.  I suppose it's possible
       that seeing one of the mentioned books in a store, I might recall
       that I had heard something about it, but possibly not even whether
       it was a recommendation or a warning.)

                                  Kaffeeklatsch
                                   Sunday, noon
                                  Connie Willis

            First off, everyone congratulated Willis on her two Nebula
       nominations (for _D_o_o_m_s_d_a_y _B_o_o_k and "Even the Queen").

            I asked her about a comment she had made earlier about people
       telling her she had to get off the fence.  This fence was not the
       fence between humor and serious writing, but the fence between the
       Left and the Right (for lack of better terms).  People kept saying
       she had to take sides, but Willis says, "No!"  Women keep telling
       her about her "responsibility to her sisters," but Willis says her
       responsibility is to the truth, and that anyway, she thought women's
       liberation meant that she could have the freedom to write about what
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       editorial for the October 1992 issue of _I_s_a_a_c _A_s_i_m_o_v'_s _S_c_i_e_n_c_e
       _F_i_c_t_i_o_n in response to the attitude that there were no women writing
       science fiction until Ursula LeGuin and Joanna Russ "stormed the
       barricades." In the editorial, Willis talked about how there have
       always been women writing science fiction, and how many of them were
       major influences on her.  She also said that the major influence on
       her was probably Robert Heinlein's juveniles, and that any science
       fiction writer who claims otherwise is probably trying to be
       politically correct rather than honest.  Most of the authors she
       mentioned are out of print now (because of the Thor Power Tool tax
       ruling making keeping backlist books too expensive; one can hope
       that electronic libraries will help get around this problem).

            Two recent works which have influenced her writing are
       D'Souza's _I_l_l_i_b_e_r_a_l _E_d_u_c_a_t_i_o_n: _T_h_e _P_o_l_i_t_i_c_s _o_f _R_a_c_e & _S_e_x _o_n _C_a_m_p_u_s
       (Random House, 1992, 300pp, $12) and Wendy Kaminer's _I'_m
       _D_y_s_f_u_n_c_t_i_o_n_a_l, _Y_o_u'_r_e _D_y_s_f_u_n_c_t_i_o_n_a_l: _T_h_e _R_e_c_o_v_e_r_y _M_o_v_e_m_e_n_t & _O_t_h_e_r
       _S_e_l_f-_H_e_l_p _F_a_s_h_i_o_n_s (Addison-Wesley, 1992, 176pp, $18.22).  A work
       that influenced _D_o_o_m_s_d_a_y _B_o_o_k in particular was Katherine Anne
       Porter's "Pale Horse, Pale Rider," a story set in the 1918 influenza
       plague.

            A personal influence on Willis's work was something that
       happened to her when she was about ten.  Her mother dropped off her
       and her younger sister at the movies before going shopping, saying
       that when they got out they should wait right in front of the movie
       until 4 PM, when she would come pick them up.  Something happened--
       her sister fell and hit her head or something--and her sister
       started crying loudly, and Willis didn't know what to do, so she
       looked at the clock and saw it was 3:30.  Figuring her mother would
       be along soon, she took her sister outside and waited a while.  Then
       she looked at the clock (through the door) again, and realized she
       had read the clock wrong before and it was only 2:30 (or maybe even
       earlier--I didn't write down all the details).  She knew they
       couldn't go back in, but she had a dime, so she went to a phone and
       tried calling home in case her father was there.  But her
       grandfather, who was somewhat senile, answered the phone and then
       hung up.  Now she had no money and no idea what to do.  Just as she
       was about to panic completely, her father came down the street.

            It seems he had been home in the yard and heard the phone ring,
       but couldn't get to it before her grandfather answered and hung up.
       Still, he thought that _m_a_y_b_e it was Willis calling because she was
       in trouble and just in case, he decided to go to the theater and
       check.  Willis said that the feeling of relief she felt when she saw
       him coming was something she would never forget, and this incident
       can be seen in many of her works, she says, in the themes of rescue
       and of decision-making from insufficient information.  I also see a
       parallel in the adolescent girl in _D_o_o_m_s_d_a_y _B_o_o_k who must act as an
       adult.  (Note: her father asked the ticket-seller if the two girls
       could have gone back into the theater.  "Of course," she said, but
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            Writing about history can be difficult.  Willis says it's hard
       to write about the Civil War because too many people know _e_v_e_r_y_t_h_i_n_g
       and will catch any mistake you make.  (On the other hand, there are
       also those who will ask, "Who's this Grant character?")  Other eras
       may not be as well known; when the authors were writing _1_7_7_6 (the
       musical), they discovered that they couldn't use some of the best
       lines people had said, because everyone would think they were made
       up.  For example, one of the principals said that unless the issue
       of slavery were decided then, within a hundred years it would tear
       the country apart.  These are documented in an appendix to the
       published script, in case anyone is interested.

                      Shared Worlds and Share-cropped Worlds
                                   Sunday, 1 PM
            Lisa Barnett, Gregory Feeley, Evelyn C. Leeper, Don Sakers

            This panel started with everyone on it saying they had no idea
       why they were on it.  But given that we were here, we made the best
       of it.  (My only idea was that I am known as a fan of Sherlock
       Holmes pastiches and parodies, and what are all the new Holmes
       novels and stories but a shared world?)

            First, what is the difference between "shared worlds" and
       "share-cropped worlds"?  (The latter term was coined by Richard
       Curtis, by the way.)  Shared worlds are those in which the authors
       all participate equally (more or less).  Examples would include the
       "Liavek" and "Wild Cards" series.  Share-cropped worlds, on the
       other hand, are those which one person controls, for which authors
       are hired to work within limits and constraints set by the owner,
       and for which the owner gets a payment even if he or she has not
       done any of the writing.  Examples of this would be the "Isaac
       Asimov's Robot City" novels or the "Roger Zelazny's Alien Speedway"
       novels.  Share-cropped worlds are also referred to as franchise
       fiction.  (I noted that novelizations of films also fall in this
       category to some extent; later it was observed that all writing for
       non-anthology television series would also be franchise fiction.)

            The earliest example of "shared worlds" that anyone could name
       was the "Twayne Triplets," in which three authors started from the
       same planetary description to create independent novels.  Of them,
       only James Blish's _C_a_s_e _o_f _C_o_n_s_c_i_e_n_c_e remains well-known.  The
       technique of "world-building" and then handing out the world to a
       variety of authors continues even now though.

            Share-cropped worlds are what I also refer to as "Fred Nobody
       Writing in the World of Joe Hugo-Winner," usually with Fred Nobody's
       name in five-point type and Joe Hugo-Winner's in twenty-point type.
       Someone else suggested that perhaps some of these books needed to
       have on the cover something like "Isaac Asimov had absolutely
       nothing to do with this book" in large type.  Many people agreed
       that much franchise fiction was like strip-mining: taking a











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       profitable setting and churning out works as fast as possible with
       no concern about whether they were destroying any possibility of
       creating genuinely original works in that setting later on.  Of
       course, for authors who have salable settings and who are too old or
       ill to continue writing in them, this does not seem to be as big a
       concern.

            Share-cropping can also include co-authoring, although the
       obvious drawback here is that all good writing will be attributed to
       the established author and all bad writing will be blamed on the new
       author.  This assumes an old author/new author pairing, of course.
       In general, this is the case, but there are exceptions.  For example
       Robert Silverberg collaborated with Isaac Asimov in expanding
       Asimov's "Ugly Little Boy" into a novel.  But in this instance, the
       line between the two is clearly drawn and relatively well-known--
       Silverberg wrote everything that didn't appear in the original short
       story.  Another exception was the collection _F_o_u_n_d_a_t_i_o_n'_s _F_r_i_e_n_d_s,
       in which well-known authors were all asked to write tribute stories
       for Asimov set in Asimov's universe.  But again, this is a special
       case, and it is obvious what is the author's and what is the
       "owner's."

            Feeley said that sometimes even established authors will go
       into the franchise fiction field as the "junior partner."  Michael
       Kube-McDowell, he said, felt that writing one of the "Robot City"
       novels would help his career, particularly if it were filed next to
       his other books, because then people who liked the one might buy the
       others.  Someone pointed out this doesn't work nearly as well if all
       the "Robot City" books are filed together under Asimov, which seemed
       to be where I saw them.  Well-known authors are used in some series,
       particularly the "Star Trek" and "Star Wars" series, to revive
       declining interest by providing a novel that is a marked improvement
       over other recent entries.  (I should note here that a recent
       _S_c_i_e_n_c_e _F_i_c_t_i_o_n _C_h_r_o_n_i_c_l_e reports that Michael Kube-McDowell would
       like to drop the "Kube" and become just Michael P. McDowell, but due
       to the number of "Michael McDowell"'s writing, he is having some
       difficulty.  For now, one should consider him to be Michael
       P. McDowell writing under the pseudonym "Michael Kube-McDowell."  I
       consider this is yet further evidence that changing one's name at
       marriage can lead to complications down the line; the "Kube" in this
       case refers to a marriage dissolved five years ago.)

            Someone compared the whole franchising system to Amway:
       Mercedes Lackey started by writing in Anne McCaffrey's universe, and
       now other authors are writing in Mercedes Lackey's universe.  This
       is all reminiscent of Renaissance paintings, where (for example)
       many paintings attributed to Rembrandt turned out to be merely "from
       the school of Rembrandt."

            Someone brought up the issue of "moral rights to copyright."
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       such a concept is not recognized, but in Britain it is (apparently).
       As I understand it, this means that if someone produces a work-for-
       hire, whether a franchise novel or a drawing in their capacity as
       artist for a company or some other work for which the copyright is
       owned by someone else, the actual artist still has some control over
       how that work is used.  So someone who wrote a franchise novel could
       prevent the copyright owner from changing the hero from defeating
       the villain in a duel to stabbing him in the back, or someone who
       painted a mother and child to advertise soap flakes could prevent
       having that illustration used to promote an anti-choice candidate.
       (Disclaimer: I may have misunderstood what was being described, but
       this is what I think I heard.)  I also think that this prevents
       someone from claiming to have produced a work actually produced by
       someone else.

            The discussion of issues of ownership led one audience member
       to point out that folk music (outside of science fiction fandom) and
       fan fiction (within it) ignore ownership.  The latter has resulted
       in some unpleasant legal ramifications for some of those who have
       "appropriated" another author's world, especially if the
       appropriator has asked first and was refused.  It's difficult to
       plead ignorance in such a case.  The recent _T_e_x_t_u_a_l _P_o_a_c_h_e_r_s:
       _T_e_l_e_v_i_s_i_o_n _F_a_n_s & _P_a_r_t_i_c_i_p_a_t_o_r_y _C_u_l_t_u_r_e by Henry Jenkins (Routledge,
       1992, $15.95) discusses this at great length in the context of
       television and film fandoms (e.g., "Star Trek" fandom, "Beauty and
       the Beast" fandom).  The desire to write in someone else's universe
       is not limited to fans, of course--someone said that even Joanna
       Russ had written a K/S story, which was available only as samizdat,
       of course.  (No, I have no idea where you can get it.  Don't bother
       to ask.)  Someone else claimed that Mark Twain wrote a Sherlock
       Holmes parody; I don't know what that one is either, but if you do,
       please let me know.

            There are also works that are co-authored without being share-
       cropped, or shared beyond the co-authors.  (A shared world implies
       more than one work, and different authors involved for different
       works.  Niven and Pournelle have written two "Motie" novels, but
       this does not make it a shared world.)  The problem with co-
       authoring, or collaboration, someone said, is that each partner does
       90% of the work.

            To wrap up, I said, "I would like to think that there is some
       way for an established author to mentor a new author, but I don't
       think this [share-cropping] is it, because it diminishes both the
       established author and the new author."  Amazingly, the other
       panelists felt that summed it up quite nicely.

                                     Leaving

            Even leaving was an adventure.  Because of our dead battery, we
       needed to find someone who could give us a jump.  Jeff Hecht kindly











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       did so, and it still took ten minutes of cranking to get our engine
       to catch.  (We replaced the battery when we got home.)  On the way
       home, we stopped for dinner at Traveler Restaurant Book Cellar in
       Union, Connecticut.  The upstairs is a restaurant with a gimmick: "a
       free book with every meal," though the books are of the sort one
       would find at the end of the day in a rummage sale and the food is
       undistinguished.  The walls are covered with autographed photographs
       of famous authors, most of whom probably never ate there but sent
       autographed pictures when asked.  The basement is a regular used
       bookstore with very reasonable prices.  (I found Harlan Ellison's
       _S_t_a_l_k_i_n_g _t_h_e _N_i_g_h_t_m_a_r_e from Phantasia Press for $3.50, for example.)
       It's out in the middle of nowhere, but probably worth a visit if
       you're passing by on your way between New York and Boston.

                                  Miscellaneous

            Membership seems to have _f_i_r_m_l_y settled in around 900, in spite
       of the return to the Boston area.  Framingham is still not
       convenient enough to public transportation to show a really big
       increase over Springfield.

            Next year for Boskone 31 (February 18-20, 1994) the Guests of
       Honor are Emma Bull and Will Shetterly, and Special Guests of Honor
       are Patrick Nielsen Hayden and Theresa Nielsen Hayden.