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                        Mt. Holz Science Fiction Society
                     Club Notice - 4/1/94 -- Vol. 12, No. 40


       MEETINGS UPCOMING:

       Unless otherwise stated, all meetings are in Middletown 1R-400C
            Wednesdays at noon.

         _D_A_T_E                    _T_O_P_I_C

       04/20  VALIS by Philip K. Dick

       Outside events:
       The Science Fiction Association of Bergen County meets on the second
       Saturday of every month in Upper Saddle River; call 201-933-2724 for
       details.  The New Jersey Science Fiction Society meets on the third
       Saturday of every month in Belleville; call 201-432-5965 for details.

       HO Chair:     John Jetzt        MT 2G-432  908-957-5087 holly!jetzt
       LZ Chair:     Rob Mitchell      HO 1C-523  908-834-1267 holly!jrrt
       MT Chair:     Mark Leeper       MT 3D-441  908-957-5619 mtgzfs3!leeper
       HO Librarian: Nick Sauer        HO 4F-427  908-949-7076 homxc!11366ns
       LZ Librarian: Lance Larsen      HO 2C-318  908-949-4156 quartet!lfl
       MT Librarian: Mark Leeper       MT 3D-441  908-957-5619 mtgzfs3!leeper
       Factotum:     Evelyn Leeper     MT 1F-329  908-957-2070 mtgpfs1!ecl
       All material copyright by author unless otherwise noted.

       1. What with one thing and another it has been a while since we had
       a film festival.  It probably is time to reschedule.  It has been a
       long hard winter so it probably would be a good idea to  have  some
       light-hearted  comedies.   We  recently  were  treated  to the film
       _G_r_e_e_d_y, a reputedly not-very-funny comedy about human greed.  Human
       greed  is a fairly serious subject, of course.  Second only to sex,
       greed brings out the unvarnished animal in us.   That  probably  is
       what  makes  greed  a  funny subject for film.  It stands to reason
       there should be some good comedies on the subject.  I can think  of
       three  good  comedies  on  this  thorny subject.  We don't have _T_h_e
       _F_o_r_t_u_n_e _C_o_o_k_i_e but we do have the other two.  On Thursday, April 7,
       at 7PM we will be showing:

       Crime, Greed, and Chaos
       RUTHLESS PEOPLE (1986) dir. by Abrahams, Zucker, Abrahams
       WRONG BOX (1966) dir. by Bryan Forbes












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       In _R_u_t_h_l_e_s_s _P_e_o_p_l_e Danny DeVito has very deep  feelings  about  his
       wife  of fifteen years (played by Bette Midler).  One of the things
       he feels deeply is that he  doesn't  want  her  alive  to  make  it
       sixteen.   He  is  ready  and willing to kill her when his plans go
       wrong--sort of.  She is kidnapped by two desperate people who  will
       kill  her if DeVito doesn't come up with $500,000.  But can they be
       enticed to carry out their threat?  I won't describe the chaos that
       occurs, but _R_u_t_h_l_e_s_s _P_e_o_p_l_e is a sort of a _B_l_o_o_d _S_i_m_p_l_e with jokes.
       Lots of them.  And little surprises.  This film is directed by  the
       same  team  that  directed _A_i_r_p_l_a_n_e!  And back then it was the full
       team--nowadays they are working separately.  _R_u_t_h_l_e_s_s _P_e_o_p_l_e  is  a
       laugh-out-loud  comedy.  Feisty little DeVito carries the film with
       a good-natured malevolence that is a positive joy to watch.   Bette
       Midler's  anything-but-helpless  kidnap victim will give nightmares
       to any potential kidnapper in  the  country.   Judge  Reinholt  and
       Helen Slater are a little too pat as the kidnappers, but the script
       even gives them a few good scenes.

       _T_h_e _W_r_o_n_g _B_o_x starts with about ten minutes of solid  laughs,  then
       calms  down to just a very funny film.  The film is about a tontine
       amongst gentlemen.  Whoever lives the longest wins the lottery  and
       he or his heirs will be fabulously wealthy.  There are two cousins,
       played by John  Mills  and  Ralph  Richardson,  who  are  the  last
       survivors.   Things start happening when Richardson's two evil sons
       (played by Peter Cook and Dudley Moore) decide to secure the  prize
       with--gasp!--foul  play.  This is a terrific screwball comedy based
       on a novel by Robert Louis Stevenson and set in  Victorian  London.
       The  film stars Michael Caine as John Mills's not-to-bright son and
       also has a delightful small role for Peter Sellers.  But  the  most
       hilarious  character  is  Peacock.   I won't even describe Peacock.
       This film is not an easy one to find and it is very, very funny.


       ===================================================================

       2. THE PAPER (a film review by Mark R. Leeper):

            Capsule review:  Ron Howard's look at the  turbulent
            life  on  a  struggling  middle-brow newspaper makes
            some  pointed  observations  about   the   newspaper
            business  but  spoils  it all trying to tie too many
            loose ends in too silly a final act.  Rating: low +1
            (-4 to +4)

       Ron Howard's newest film about working-class heroes is  a  look  at
       what goes on in and out of an incredibly chaotic newsroom.  Just as
       he previously did with firefighters in _B_a_c_k_d_r_a_f_t, he is now showing
       how  a  good newspaper staff, even on a sleezy-looking tabloid, can
       make all the difference for a city like New York.  It  is  a  story
       that  has been done several times, though usually based on the play
       "The Front Page" by Ben Hecht and Charles MacArthur.  _T_h_e _P_a_p_e_r  is











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       not  obviously  based  on  that  play,  but  the  fast-paced style,
       newsroom pandemonium, comic touches, reporter looking to get out of
       the  job,  and  even  the  basic  plot of the news scoop that could
       prevent an injustice leave little doubt  where  David  and  Stephan
       Koepp probably got much of their inspiration.

       The film covers 24 hours and  10  seconds  in  the  life  of  wise-
       cracking  tabloid  editor/reporter Henry Hackett (played by Michael
       Keaton).  Even in Hackett's hectic life,  this  is  a  particularly
       frenetic  day.   His very pregnant wife (played by Marisa Tomei) is
       an ex-reporter with numerous  nightmares  of  impending  empty  and
       prosaic  future.   Martha  Hackett is pushing her husband to take a
       better-paying and more dependable job.  Henry has been offered  the
       job  at the New York Times (pronounced "Sentinel") where he will be
       a soulless, neat professional instead of the wild seat-of-the-pants
       reporter  he  is  used to being.  The Sentinel is the kind of paper
       where  you  worry  less  about  scoops   and   more   about   being
       "comprehensive."    Complicating  matters  is  a  local  government
       functionary has a vendetta against McDougal, a brilliant and grungy
       co-reporter played by Randy Quaid.  Throw into the mix Bernie White
       (Robert Duvall) a  slightly  obnoxious  chief  editor  with  family
       problems,   prostate   cancer,   and   apparently   smoking-related
       illnesses.  All the subplots tie themselves up in ways ranging from
       unsurprising to highly predictable, even if along the way they take
       detours through total absurdity.

       The pacing of the story is frenetic though at the same  time  often
       informative,  if somewhat cynical.  The meetings to decide how much
       to emphasize the various breaking stories are absolute  gems.   One
       irritation  I  had watching the film was I kept getting carbonation
       bubbles up my nose.  Ron Howard kept rubbing it  in  Coca-Cola  and
       its  subsidiary products.  Calling these product "placements" seems
       too gentle.  This was a product  barrage.   Howard  may  have  been
       making  up  for product placement opportunities missed when he made
       _F_a_r _a_n_d _A_w_a_y.

       It would be nice to say that  Keaton  brought  some  sort  of  deep
       resonance to his role.  One sort of expects that, but the character
       of Hackett really does  not  need  or  give  opportunity  for  good
       acting.  Hackett is an inconsiderate wiseguy who loves only his job
       and his wife, in pretty much that order.  That doesn't give  Keaton
       much  latitude  to act.  Marginally more room is given to Duvall as
       Bernie White.  Duvall gives him a few rough Jewish characteristics,
       but  this  will not be a well-remembered role for him.  Glenn Close
       is bullish and officious.   Hers  is  certainly  one  of  the  more
       interesting characters but her role in a disastrously miscalculated
       scene toward the end.  Marisa Tomei has more drama than she has had
       in previous roles but doers not carry it well.

       _T_h_e _P_a_p_e_r has many good moments but overall could have been a  much
       better movie.  I give it a low +1 on the -4 to +4 scale.











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       [Note: the play "The Front Page" referred to above has been  filmed
       four  times:  _T_h_e  _F_r_o_n_t  _P_a_g_e  (1931), _H_i_s _G_i_r_l _F_r_i_d_a_y (1940), _T_h_e
       _F_r_o_n_t _P_a_g_e (1974), and _S_w_i_t_c_h_i_n_g _C_h_a_n_n_e_l_s (1988).]


       ===================================================================

       3. Boskone 31 (con report by Evelyn C. Leeper) (part 3 of 3):

                   Creating an Internally Consistent Religion
                                 Saturday, 3 PM
          David A. Smith (mod), James Patrick Kelly, Rosemary Kirstein

       In the usual introductions, Kelly said that he had  written  _P_l_a_n_e_t
       _o_f  _W_h_i_s_p_e_r_s and _L_o_o_k _i_n_t_o _t_h_e _S_u_n (based on Julian Jaynes's _O_r_i_g_i_n
       _o_f _C_o_n_s_c_i_o_u_s_n_e_s_s _i_n _t_h_e _B_r_e_a_k_d_o_w_n _o_f _t_h_e _B_i_c_a_m_e_r_a_l _M_i_n_d).

       The panelists started out by saying they were not going  to  define
       religion.   (Darn!)   So  they  began by asking what it means for a
       religion to be inconsistent.  Well, one answer  would  be  that  it
       says  one  thing  and  does another, though no examples were given.
       Also, they said, reality can make a religion  inconsistent.   I  do
       not know if by this they were referring to the sort of problem that
       strict Biblical fundamentalists  have  with  a  heliocentric  solar
       system,  or  what.   (Later,  the  example  was  given of the Boxer
       Rebellion, in which warriors were told that they  were  invincible.
       The  problem, as someone expressed it, was that the bullets did not
       believe this.)  Another idea of an inconsistent religion  might  be
       one  in which on the one hand there is a command to be fruitful and
       multiply, while on the other hand, sex is taught as something to be
       avoided.

       Someone listed the five branches of philosophy at this point:

                    - logic--provides the rational basis for philosophical
                      discussion
                    - epistemology--theory of knowledge
                    - metaphysics or ontology--study of nature of reality
                    - ethics--study of what is good
                    - aesthetics--study of what is beautiful

       It was not clear what this had to do with the question at hand, but
       it was educational enough that I decided to include it.

       The discussion moved to  examining  the  nature  of  consciousness.
       Someone  felt  that  consciousness  was  connected to the idea of a
       personal god that speaks to one.

       As to why to create a religion at all, the panelists said  that  it
       was one way to motivate a character.  But they warned about getting
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       are  not  inconsistent--there  is  not  enough  there  to make them
       inconsistent.

       As an example of  a  fairly  completely  fleshed-out  religion  (as
       fictional  ones  go),  someone  gave the example of the religion in
       Frank Herbert's _D_u_n_e.  Harry Turtledove has the  premise  that  all
       religions  are true in his "Visdessos" series, and also in _T_h_e _C_a_s_e
       _o_f _t_h_e _T_o_x_i_c  _S_p_e_l_l  _D_u_m_p,  which  I  would  think  would  lead  to
       inconsistencies if two different religions claim that they are each
       the only way to salvation.

       Someone asked if humans need religion (here defined as a belief  in
       something  beyond oneself).  Many people seemed to agree that there
       could be an ethical content without  spiritual  motivation  (though
       the  Boy  Scouts of America seem to disagree).  And there is also a
       distinction between "hard" religion and "soft" religion.

       Books mentioned that used religion as a major focus included Walter
       M. Miller's  _C_a_n_t_i_c_l_e _f_o_r _L_e_i_b_o_w_i_t_z (a pre-Vatican-II, post-nuclear
       Catholicism); Robert A. Heinlein's _U_n_i_v_e_r_s_e; Fritz Leiber's _G_a_t_h_e_r,
       _D_a_r_k_n_e_s_s;  James  Blish's _C_a_s_e _o_f _C_o_n_s_c_i_e_n_c_e and _B_l_a_c_k _E_a_s_t_e_r; Kurt
       Vonnegut's _C_a_t'_s _C_r_a_d_l_e; and  the  work  of  L. Ron  Hubbard.   The
       latter was in response to someone who said that in novels, you know
       the made-up religion is false so you do not believe it.  This  gave
       rise  to  the question of whether an author could create a religion
       that people will believe in (or at least want to).  And what people
       want  to believe in can vary widely--someone claimed that the Inuit
       often find descriptions of Hell inviting!  Heinlein's _S_t_r_a_n_g_e_r _i_n _a
       _S_t_r_a_n_g_e  _L_a_n_d was given as an example of a religion that people did
       want to  believe  in,  though  whether  it  actually  "worked"  was
       unclear.   And  Heinlein of course reminds us that authors may also
       create religions to "prove"  their  ideas.   Early  Roger  Zelazny,
       according to some, did this as well.

       A religion must also be economically viable as well  as  internally
       consistent.   For example, if a religion demands a virgin sacrifice
       every day, there better be a _l_a_r_g_e supply of virgins  handy.   (One
       of the reasons the Spanish were able to conquer the Aztecs was that
       all the neighboring tribes helped fight the Aztecs,  who  had  been
       raiding them to get enough victims for their sacrifices.)

                                  Autographing
                                Saturday, 4:30 PM
                                    Emma Bull

       Luck of Leeper states that if I bring books by two  authors  to  be
       autographed,  at least one will not be at the convention.  So I got
       my _W_a_r _f_o_r _t_h_e _O_a_k_s autographed by Emma Bull, but Kara  Dalkey  was
       not there to autograph _T_h_e _N_i_g_h_t_i_n_g_a_l_e.













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                                     Parties

       I dropped by the Readercon party to buy  my  supporting  membership
       and  the "Boston in 2001" party to find out what was going on.  Not
       much was happening either place, or at most of  the  other  parties
       (maybe  I  was just early), so I went back to the room and crashed.
       Last year I had attended the "Boston in 1998" party and my  feeling
       had  been  that  there  was no really good choice for 1998, because
       Niagara   Falls   and   Boston   probably   did   not   have    the
       facilities/hotels   needed,   and   the   Baltimore   people   were
       concentrating too much on offering rum drinks  and  not  enough  on
       content  or  planning.   The latter seems to have improved (I think
       someone told them they had to _s_h_o_w that their act was together, not
       just  have  it  secretly  together), and they seem to be the front-
       runner.  (I'm saving my Boston vote for  2001,  since  if  it's  in
       Boston in 1998, it cannot be in Boston in 2001.)

                                     Origami
                                  Sunday, 10 AM
                              Mark R. Leeper (mod)

       I did not attend this, but saw it while  I  was  cruising  the  art
       show.   It  seemed well-attended, though Mark mentioned that he was
       not happy about having the workshop shut down after only one  hour.
       Since  teaching origami takes a while, it would have been better to
       have it somewhere where they could have gone two hours.

               The Forgotten Fantasists: Swann, Warner, and others
                                  Sunday, 11 AM
                    Greer Gilman, Nancy C. Hanger, Don Keller

       This was described as an "advocacy" panel.  Much of it consisted of
       the  panelists either listing authors they recommended, or actually
       reading excerpts from these authors' works.  But other  interesting
       tidbits  were revealed.  For example, Keller mentioned that William
       Morris invented the fantasy novel  writing  pastiches  of  medieval
       romances.

       Gilman started by  reading  from  Sylvia  Townsend  Warner's  _L_o_l_l_y
       _W_i_l_l_o_w_e_s  (which she mentioned had been the very first Book-of-the-
       Month Club selection).  She also recommended Warner's  _K_i_n_g_d_o_m_s  _o_f
       _E_l_f_i_n  and  _C_a_t'_s _C_r_a_d_l_e, and Rachel Ferguson's _T_h_e _B_r_o_n_t_e_s _W_e_n_t _t_o
       _W_o_o_l_w_o_r_t_h'_s  (recently  reprinted  by  Virago  Press),  which   she
       described  as  "the  urban  fantasy  of  its time." (The Library of
       Congress, by the way, does not list  the  title  _C_a_t'_s  _C_r_a_d_l_e  for
       Warner.   However,  it  also  does not list Hope Mirrlees's _L_U_D-_i_n-
       _t_h_e-_M_i_s_t, which I _k_n_o_w exists, so do not take this as gospel.)

       George MacDonald was also recommended.  His works are hard to find,
       but  the  panelists  recommended you try Christian publishers.  The
       edition of his works someone had was  from  the  Ballantine  "Adult











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       Fantasy"  series,  which  led  people to list all the other authors
       published in that series as well.  (There were about sixty books in
       the  series;  no, I cannot list them all!)  MacDonald's were "dream
       country" rather than "somewhere else," a distinction that turns out
       to  be  of  some  interest  in  analyzing  fantasy.   MacDonald was
       described as a Christian theologian  rather  than  as  a  Christian
       apologist (a term usually applied to C. S. Lewis).

       A lot was said about Charles Williams, including that he could also
       be considered a writer of urban fantasy.  Someone said they fell in
       love with his work when they read the  first  sentence  of  _W_a_r  _i_n
       _H_e_a_v_e_n:  "The  telephone was ringing wildly but there was no one to
       answer it except the corpse lying under the desk."

       Hope Mirrlees was called a "minor Bloomsburyite."

       Karen  Michalson's   study   _V_i_c_t_o_r_i_a_n   _F_a_n_t_a_s_y   _L_i_t_e_r_a_t_u_r_e   was
       recommended.   It explains, among other things, why fantasists were
       forgotten.  (It has to do with political heterodoxy, and also  with
       the  fact that they wrote with no marketing constraints.)  A lot of
       literary terms and references were thrown around, which I  did  not
       note down.

       Other recommendations included _E_a_r_t_h_f_a_s_t_s and  _T_h_e  _G_r_a_s_s  _R_o_p_e  by
       William  Mayne  (I  could  not find a listing for the latter in the
       Library of Congress); _T_r_a_v_e_l_l_e_r _i_n _T_i_m_e by Alison Utley;  someone's
       _R_a_c_h_e_l  _a_n_d  _t_h_e _S_e_v_e_n _W_o_n_d_e_r_s (again, I could not find a listing);
       _T_h_e _A_b_a_n_d_o_n_e_d, _T_h_e  _M_a_n  _W_h_o  _W_a_s  _M_a_g_i_c,  and  _M_a_n_x_m_o_u_s_e  by  Paul
       Gallico;  _L_a_d_y _F_e_r_r_y by Sarah Orne Jewett (I found lots of listings
       for her, but no book of this title); and _T_h_e _S_h_e_r_w_o_o_d _R_i_n_g and  _T_h_e
       _P_e_r_i_l_o_u_s _G_a_r_d by Elizabeth Marie Pope.

                             The City and The Story
                                 Sunday, 12 noon
       Moshe Feder (mod), Emma Bull, Greer Gilman, Steve Popkes, Madeleine Robins

       Most of the panelists (at least  the  authors)  had  written  urban
       fantasies,  but Gilman described herself as the "token pastoralist"
       on the panel, since none of her work is set in cities.  (Apparently
       the  idea of "the City and the _S_c_i_e_n_c_e _F_i_c_t_i_o_n Story" was not going
       to be discussed.)

       The obvious  first  question  (which  was  also  the  actual  first
       question)  is, "Are cities good places for fantasy?"  The panelists
       felt that they were,  because  the  density  of  people  in  cities
       provides  a lot of opportunity.  They also note that Teresa Nielsen
       Hayden claimed there were two different  scenarios  for  cities  in
       fantasy (or science fiction): the City of Tomorrow, and the City of
       Dreadful Night.  According to someone on the panel, Nielsen  Hayden
       made  the  distinction  by saying, "The City of Tomorrow is full of
       hope but has no sex and no one takes out the  garbage,"  while  the











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       City  of  Dreadful  Night  may  be more depressing but is also more
       realistic.

       The wide opportunity for characters is enhanced by  the  fact  that
       "being born in New York City doesn't make you a New Yorker" (as one
       panelists noted).  "Some people are born  to  live  in  Cleveland."
       Other  panelists compared this lack of identification with the city
       of one's birth to some people's lack  of  identification  with  the
       gender of their birth.

       The whole question of the "city and the story" made  the  panelists
       ask if there were stories in which the setting was paramount, or at
       least more important than the characters.  Bull  said  that  people
       respond  to their environment, but that the people (characters) are
       paramount.  Gilman disagreed, at least  mildly,  by  citing  Joseph
       Conrad as an author whose settings are very important, perhaps more
       important than his characters.   Someone  responded  that  Conrad's
       settings  _a_r_e  his  characters.   Bull  agreed  that settings could
       replace some characters; she said that Lankhmar would need at least
       eighteen characters to replace it as a setting.

       People  agreed  that  science  fiction  uses  settings  more   than
       mainstream fiction does.  Some examples of setting-based mainstream
       fiction given were John Dos Passos's _U_S_A, Toni Morrison's  _B_e_l_o_v_e_d,
       Peter  Matthiessen's  _F_a_r _T_o_r_t_u_g_a, Thornton Wilder's _B_r_i_d_g_e_s _o_f _S_a_n
       _L_u_i_s _R_e_y, Gabriel Garcia Marquez's _O_n_e _H_u_n_d_r_e_d _Y_e_a_r_s  _o_f  _S_o_l_i_t_u_d_e,
       and  most  of  Charles Dickens's works.  Science fiction works that
       are setting-based include John Stith's _M_a_n_h_a_t_t_a_n  _T_r_a_n_s_f_e_r,  Samuel
       Delany's  _D_h_a_l_g_r_e_n, Ursula K. LeGuin's _L_e_f_t _H_a_n_d _o_f _D_a_r_k_n_e_s_s, Brian
       Aldiss's _M_a_l_a_c_i_a _T_a_p_e_s_t_r_y, Robert  Sheckley's  "Street  of  Dreams,
       Feet of Clay," A. J. Deutsch's "Subway Named Moebius," and Thea von
       Harbou's _M_e_t_r_o_p_o_l_i_s.  One book mentioned as  being  an  interesting
       urban  fantasy  was  Rachel  Pollack's  _U_n_q_u_e_n_c_h_a_b_l_e _F_i_r_e, in which
       magic devices are bought at the local K-Mart.

       Has the  city,  then,  replaced  the  island  in  literature  as  a
       microcosm?   It  has  its  own  self-imposed  isolation.  (The film
       _P_r_o_s_p_e_r_o'_s _B_o_o_k_s is an  urban  landscape,  even  though  everything
       takes  place  indoors.)  Neighborhoods in the city can recreate the
       village, and parts outside the neighborhood can appear  to  be  the
       dark  wood  (which  panelists  had  agreed _h_a_d been replaced by the
       city).  And since people in cities ignore a lot of things,  fantasy
       can  occur  unnoticed.  Some people on the panel claimed this image
       of city people ignoring their surroundings was not a true image  of
       city  people,  but the fate Kitty Genovese reminds us that it is at
       least partly true.

       I asked if authors write about cities they have not visited as well
       as  cities  they  are familiar with.  Then I rephrased it as, well,
       yes, of course they do sometimes, but  what  are  the  differences?
       Robins  said  that  she  used  the money from her first book set in











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       London to make her first visit to  London,  but  the  question  got
       dropped  fairly  fast.   Bull  did  say that the Plaza of the Three
       Cultures in Mexico City was her most science-fictional  experience.
       There a statue there which is remaining at the same level while the
       plaza (and the city) around it are sinking, so gradually  more  and
       more  steps  are  added  up  to  the  statue.  Robins said her most
       science-fictional experience was going to the World's Fair  in  New
       York  after  it  was  closed  and  seeing  what looked like a post-
       holocaust world around her.  (Someone asked her which World's Fair,
       to  which  Bull responded that Robins "has this oil painting in her
       attic....")

       As far as writing stories in different cities, Bull said  that  she
       would  like  to  spread  out,  and  perhaps  set  her next story in
       St. Paul (especially after how she treated it in _W_a_r _f_o_r _t_h_e _O_a_k_s).
       She  also wanted to set a story in Taxco, Mexico.  Popkes wanted to
       set a story in Berlin, Gilman in  Whitby  (used  in  Bram  Stoker's
       _D_r_a_c_u_l_a), and Robins in Florence, Italy; or Los Angeles.

       Gilman pointed out that even her pastoral settings are not natural.
       Moors  are made by burning forests and will return to forest unless
       they are maintained.  So  even  landscapes  are  not  untouched  by
       humans  and  civilization.   Popkes  saw  this,  and  cities,  as a
       metaphor of humans changing the earth.  He also  said  that  cities
       have one of everything, and described walking down Park Avenue last
       December and passing a man carrying a handful of whips and  calling
       out,  "Whips  for sale!  Whips for sale!  Great stocking-stuffers!"
       (I figure he was probably doing a brisk business with tourists  who
       then  took  them  home  and  said,  "Hey,  Marge, look what they're
       selling on the streets of New York!"   Like  Broadway  shows,  it's
       probably only the tourist trade that keeps him going.)

                          What's BIG in the Small Press
                                  Sunday, 1 PM
       Mark Olson (mod), Ken Gale, Carl Lundgren, Charles Ryan, Lawrence Schimel

       First the panelists listed their small press "credentials."   Olson
       works  with NESFA Press, which started out doing books to honor the
       Guests of Honor at Boskones, but has branched out into doing  other
       works, its latest being _T_h_e _R_e_d_i_s_c_o_v_e_r_y _o_f _M_a_n, the collected short
       stories of Cordwainer Smith.  Gale does Evolution Comics,  Lundgren
       does  his  own art books, and Schimel does poetry through Midsummer
       Night's Press, a letter press.  Ryan does "First Books,"  which  he
       said  was  an example of how small presses take the risk when large
       companies will not.  Olson agreed with that, saying that when NESFA
       Press had gone back to Smith's estate to try to purchase the rights
       for _N_o_r_s_t_r_i_l_i_a, they were told that these right were more  valuable
       and  would  cost most than NESFA had offered to pay.  NESFA pointed
       out that they  were  more  valuable  precisely  because  NESFA  had
       published  the collection and generated new interest, but also said
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       the  higher  price, that was fine with them: NESFA's goal is to get
       the works they like back in print.

       Among the problems faced by small press publishers seems to be  the
       necessity  to  pay  "placement  fees"  to get distributors to carry
       them.  (So far as I could tell, these were more  like  bribes  than
       legitimate  fees.)   Ryan said that the inability to pay these fees
       was one reason why _A_b_o_r_i_g_i_n_a_l had problems getting into the market.
       Also,  bookstores  want  a  lot  of  extra  copies.   For  example,
       Waldenbooks wants no more than 50% sell-through,  meaning  that  if
       the publisher sends them 1000 copies, at least 500 will not be sold
       and will be destroyed.  So it the publisher is working on  a  small
       margin, meeting these requirements is impossible.

       NESFA also has problems because of the marketing.   Dealers  get  a
       40%  discount, so the list price for the book must actually reflect
       a profit at their wholesale rate, e.g., if the book  costs  $12  to
       produce,  then  it must be priced at a minimum of $20 just to break
       even.  And bigger distributors want bigger discounts (50%-55%),  so
       if you plan on using those, the list price goes even higher (in the
       previous example, it would have to be $25).  Of course, this  means
       when you buy direct from NESFA (at a convention, for example), they
       get a lot more of the profit.

       Good reviews help a little--NESFA estimates that they add about  6%
       to  the  retail  sales  of  the  book.  (_T_h_e _R_e_d_i_s_c_o_v_e_r_y _o_f _M_a_n was
       reviewed favorably in  _P_u_b_l_i_s_h_e_r_s  _W_e_e_k_l_y,  for  example.)   Harlan
       Ellison's rantings about the same book at ConFrancisco, colorful as
       they were, seem to have added only about thirty more  retail  sales
       than NESFA was expecting there.

       There was some discussion of hardback versus  paperback  books  and
       their  marketing.  Someone gave the example that Tor does a hundred
       hardback books a year and a thousand paperbacks, yet makes more  on
       their  hardbacks.   This  undoubtedly  has  to  do with the returns
       system--unsold hardbacks are returned  to  Tor  for  resale,  while
       unsold paperbacks are stripped and destroyed.  Also, some magazines
       and  newspapers  will  not  review  paperbacks,  which  means  less
       exposure.

       Authors and  artists  who  are  currently  being  published  almost
       entirely  by  small  presses include Carol Emshwiller, David Bunch,
       and R. A. Lafferty.  Someone  mentioned  Edward  R. Tufte's  _V_i_s_u_a_l
       _D_i_s_p_l_a_y  _o_f  _Q_u_a_n_t_i_t_a_t_i_v_e  _R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h  from  Graphics  Press, and Tom
       Clancy got his start having _T_h_e _H_u_n_t _f_o_r _R_e_d _O_c_t_o_b_e_r  published  by
       the Naval Institute Press.

       Small presses used to do more with "collector's  limited  editions"
       (or  maybe  one should say that there used to be more small presses
       who specialized in them), but the market crashed a few  years  ago.
       Some,  like  Mark  Zeising  and Donald Grant, are still around, but











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       others, such as Pulphouse and Phantasia, are gone.

                 The Transcendent Man--A Theme in SF and Fantasy
                                  Sunday, 2 PM
            Evelyn C. Leeper (mod), Jeffrey A. Carver, Geary Gravel,
                       Nancy C. Hanger, James D. MacDonald

       (Thanks to Mark Leeper for taking copious notes at this panel.)

       There  were  the  usual   introductions.    Carver   writes   about
       transcendence  in  books  such  as  _N_e_p_t_u_n_e  _C_r_o_s_s_i_n_g.  Gravel said
       something about "transcending the limits  on  animation,"  whatever
       that  meant.   Hanger  said  she  was in editorial production and a
       priest (she did not say of what church).  MacDonald said his  books
       could be found under Doyle (Debra Doyle, his co-author).

       We all agreed we were talking about the transcendent person  rather
       than just the transcendent man.  Of course, that still left us with
       the question of  what  exactly  was  meant  by  transcendence.   My
       reading   beforehand   led  me  to  believe  that  this  meant  the
       transformation of the physical into the spiritual, and while  there
       were  some  stories that used this as a theme, there were not many.
       However, by extending the definition of  transcendence  to  include
       any  transformation  of humans into something substantively greater
       (or at least different), we could find far more to talk about,  and
       indeed that is the definition we used.

       At the beginning some examples were given,  just  so  the  audience
       could  get a handle on what we meant.  Carver mentioned Greg Bear's
       _B_l_o_o_d _M_u_s_i_c  as  an  example  of  a  physical  transformation.   (A
       spiritual  transformation,  on  the  other  hand,  might involve no
       physical transformation.)  Gravel said that things that affect  one
       person  affect  all of humanity and gave Alfred Bester's _D_e_m_o_l_i_s_h_e_d
       _M_a_n  and  _S_t_a_r_s  _M_y  _D_e_s_t_i_n_a_t_i_o_n  as  examples.   When  someone  is
       transformed,  they ask, "What do I do now?" and the answer seems to
       be, "Go cosmic.  Push the race someplace new."  Carver felt that at
       its  core  science fiction was about the transformation of man, and
       that in a real sense what people were saying was true, but not in a
       science  fiction  sense.  Someone noted that science fiction novels
       deal with how we get from here  to  there,  while  in  fantasy  the
       transcendence is often assumed and is the basis of the story.

       Hanger saw transcendence as "man plus" building  a  "newer,  better
       man,"  but  always  making  sure  that the result still had a soul.
       MacDonald asked if there was any way to  prove  that  transcendence
       had  happened,  and  if  we were not really talking about a type of
       elitism.  Carver responded that  we  were  not--that  we  were  not
       talking  about  some  people being above others, but about everyone
       changing into something different.  He gave the example  of  Vernor
       Vinge's  _F_i_r_e _U_p_o_n _t_h_e _D_e_e_p and its part of the galaxy known as the
       Transcend.  I suggested that this idea was  very  similar  to  Poul











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       Anderson's  _B_r_a_i_n  _W_a_v_e,  in  which the Earth passes out of a cloud
       that has slowed down our mental  functions,  and  as  a  result  we
       become  much  smarter.   Hanger  said  that she would not call that
       transcendence, but did not know what she would call it.

       Carver said that there  have  been  examples  of  transcendence  in
       science  fiction,  and  cited  Arthur  C. Clarke's _C_h_i_l_d_h_o_o_d'_s _E_n_d.
       Hanger added Spider and Jeanne Robinson's _S_t_a_r_d_a_n_c_e.  I said that a
       lot  of Olaf Stapledon dealt with transcendence, often physical (as
       in _L_a_s_t _a_n_d _F_i_r_s_t _M_e_n), but often spiritual.  Indeed, many  of  his
       beings  are  not  physical entities in the usual sense in the first
       place.

       Gravel said that transcendence  was  a  very  attractive  idea--the
       science fiction fan wants something that will transform us.  I said
       this made it sound as though transcendence  came  from  an  outside
       influence  or  force  rather than from within.  Gravel said that in
       fiction, of course, this outside force was the author,  and  added,
       "I  like  the  author  as God."  He again gave as a good example of
       transcendence in science fiction _T_h_e _S_t_a_r_s _M_y _D_e_s_t_i_n_a_t_i_o_n, in which
       the  result  of  the transcendence is that "man will spill out into
       the stars."

       As an example of non-human transcendence,  I  talked  about  Arthur
       C. Clarke's  "Dial  'F'  for  Frankenstein," in which the telephone
       switching system  gets  enough  computers  added  to  it  that  the
       complexity  reaches  a  certain  level  and  it  becomes  sentient.
       MacDonald said that might be connected to  the  fact  that  lawyers
       communicate  over  the  telephone; I asked him if he also wrote for
       the _W_e_e_k_l_y _W_o_r_l_d _N_e_w_s.  (By the way, did you know that according to
       the _W_e_e_k_l_y _W_o_r_l_d _N_e_w_s, during the recent Los Angeles earthquake the
       freeways cracked  open  and  demons  from  Hell  came  through  the
       cracks?)

       Even what is often called the first  science  fiction  novel,  Mary
       Shelley's  _F_r_a_n_k_e_n_s_t_e_i_n,  deals  with a form of transcendence.  And
       the early science fiction film _M_e_t_r_o_p_o_l_i_s does as well, giving  the
       theme a long history in that medium too.  Carver said that in these
       and other works, the old issue of transcendence centers around  who
       we  are  and  why  we  are here, and that when hard science fiction
       examines these questions, you have the  point  where  hard  science
       fiction merges with fantasy and religion.

       Hanger  asked  if  someone  can  be  transcendent   without   God's
       interference;  can  an  author  write a novel convincingly in which
       this happens?  This, of course, is one of the underlying themes  of
       _F_r_a_n_k_e_n_s_t_e_i_n.   Gravel  pointed  out that since MacDonald had asked
       earlier if there was  any  way  to  prove  that  transcendence  had
       happened,  and  said that he thought that the only way you could be
       sure was if God appeared and validated it.  Audience  members  said
       that  all  of  this got into the difference between the Western and











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       Eastern ideas of godhead.   The  Western  idea  says  that  God  is
       external to us; the Eastern idea is that God is internal (is within
       each of  us).   Therefore,  if  we  transcend,  then  the  seed  of
       transcendence   was   in   us  all  along,  so  it  is  not  really
       transcending.  Carver said that there are  novels  that  assume  no
       outside influence (i.e., God), and gave _B_l_o_o_d _M_u_s_i_c as one example.

       MacDonald said that the problem was that often the transcendence or
       transformation  can  be  interpreted  as  just  in  other  people's
       perceptions.  If we say it is the perception  of  others,  then  we
       cannot say it has happened at all, and if it's from inside, then we
       cannot tell whether it has "really" happened either,  even  if  (as
       Hanger suggested) we assume a limit and say that anything beyond it
       is transcendence.

       Of course, in many stories human beings reject  transcendence,  and
       Gravel pointed out that a lot of science fiction says that the best
       thing you can be is human.  _C_o_c_o_o_n _2, for example, is about why the
       human beings who have been given eternal youth (certainly a form of
       transcendence) are not happy with  it.   Someone  in  the  audience
       pointed  out  that  frequently after transcending, going back means
       dying or getting killed.  Hanger noted that  coming  back  for  the
       wrong  reasons  is  not  acceptable  either  (and cited "The Little
       Mermaid").  This reinforced Carver's  question  as  to  why  anyone
       would  _w_a_n_t to come back from transcendence (other than to move the
       plot along).  Then too, in some  stories  people  do  not  give  up
       transcendence, but rather refuse it in the first place: some of the
       characters in _B_r_a_i_n  _W_a_v_e  and  also  in  Robert  Charles  Wilson's
       _H_a_r_v_e_s_t.

       I said that a lot of mythologies have the  story  of  the  god  who
       becomes human, although of course the question is whether he really
       _b_e_c_o_m_e_s human or just seems human.  If he knows that he cannot  die
       (permanently),  then he isn't fully human.  Someone in the audience
       said that Roger Zelazny's _L_o_r_d _o_f _L_i_g_h_t and _I_s_l_e _o_f  _t_h_e  _D_e_a_d  are
       stories  about  transcendence,  in  which  characters  take  on the
       godhead but are still human, and that _I_s_l_e  _o_f  _t_h_e  _D_e_a_d  actually
       "plays both sides of the fence."  (I have not read it, at least not
       recently, so I couldn't say.)

       Gravel said that _L_o_r_d _o_f _L_i_g_h_t was definitely about  transcendence,
       but  that  even  as gods people were human.  Similarly, in the film
       _F_o_r_b_i_d_d_e_n _P_l_a_n_e_t it was the  human  (or  rather,  non-transcendent)
       nature  of  the Krell (and of Moebius) which remained in force that
       made the transcendence such a danger.  Gravel said that the  latter
       is showing there are thing you cannot do (shades of "there are some
       things Man was not meant to know/tamper with").   In  H. G. Wells's
       "Man  Who  Could  Work  Miracles" the main character is given great
       powers, and then must be bailed out  by  the  angels  at  the  end.
       Hanger  responded  that  this  belief  in  human  limitation  was a
       function of two thousand years of Catholicism  shaping  our  views.











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       Mark Leeper added that the Kabalah required that you have the right
       motives for using it.  And of course they  must  be  genuine  right
       motives--you  cannot  will yourself to want something for the right
       reasons.

       Someone in the audience asked how an  author  could  depict  super-
       intelligent  creatures.   Carver  said  that  one  way was from the
       "other's" (i.e., that being's) point of view.  I noted that  Daniel
       Keyes  tried to do this in _F_l_o_w_e_r_s _f_o_r _A_l_g_e_r_n_o_n, which of course is
       another transformation story, but that of an individual rather than
       of humanity as a whole.

       MacDonald asked if Superman was transcending in  his  phone  booth.
       Carver  responded  that Superman was always Superman; he was merely
       changing his persona.  On the other hand, I pointed out, a werewolf
       is  genuinely undergoing a transformation.  Someone in the audience
       added  that  Captain  Marvel  was  another  example  of  a  genuine
       transformation,  and  MacDonald asked, "What about Batman?"  I said
       that no, he didn't get any new powers when he put on  the  costume.
       On  the  other  hand,  is  the  growing up of a child into an adult
       transcendence?

       Gravel  concluded  by  saying,   "Science   fiction   readers   are
       transcendence  people.   Most  of  us  look at the film _T_h_e _M_a_n _W_h_o
       _C_o_u_l_d _W_o_r_k _M_i_r_a_c_l_e_s and say, 'I'd know what to do.'"  At  the  very
       end   of   the  panel,  Carver  said  that  without  the  theme  of
       transcendence we would not have science fiction today, to  which  I
       immediately  responded,  "How  can  you  say  that  at the end when
       there's no time to discuss it?!"  So we have a lead-in for a  panel
       next year if anyone's interested.

           Does It Have to Be a SpaceMAN?: Gender and Characterization
                                  Sunday, 3 PM
                  Hal Clement, Peter Johnson, Evelyn C. Leeper

       After the previous panel we went down to the  Green  Room  so  that
       Mark could get reimbursed for the origami paper he had bought.  The
       phone rang, and someone called me to it.  Who could be  calling  me
       in  the  Green  Room?   It was Laurie Mann, who said she was at the
       panel on gender and characterization  and  none  of  the  scheduled
       women  panelists had shown up.  Since having a panel on gender that
       had only men on it was a little peculiar, she asked if I could fill
       in.   So  it was not really me that the call was for, but any woman
       who happened to be there.

       At any rate, I agreed to do the best I could, given that I  had  no
       preparation and the panel apparently had no moderator.  (By sitting
       down between the other two panelists when I arrived, I  managed  to
       inherit  that  task.)   But  I can't say that much of substance was
       discussed or concluded.  After all the panelists agreed  that,  no,
       it doesn't have to be a space_m_a_n, what else was left?  Clement said











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       that he usually avoided the issue entirely by using aliens  instead
       of  human  beings,  because  the science and world-building was the
       part he liked, not the characterization.  I said that it  was  more
       important  to  have  realistic characters than some artificial mix,
       and that while Heinlein's women  are  often  used  as  examples  of
       strong  women characters in science fiction, they are really fairly
       badly drawn--but then,  so  are  Heinlein's  men.   The  discussion
       filled the hour, but I can recall nothing else to include here.  (I
       realize now how much I have come to  depend  on  Mark's  notes  for
       panels I'm on!)

                Deconstructing Tokyo: Godzilla as Metaphor, etc.
                                  Sunday, 4 PM
                          Jim Mann (mod), Bob Eggleton

       (Having stayed for the 3 PM panel, we figured we might as well stay
       for  this  one as well.  After all, the drive home was not going to
       include a blizzard this year.)

       There's not too much to say about this panel.  There were only four
       or  five attendees (all of whom got official Boskone "Godzilla Fan"
       ribbons).  The panelists felt that  because  of  the  way  Godzilla
       films are perceived in the United States, people do not notice some
       of their positive points.  For example, according to the panelists,
       they  are  filmed  beautifully.  And although the effects are often
       done on a shoestring (or perhaps because of this), the effects  are
       frequently ingenious.

       Mann said that the Godzilla films have a certain charm.  (Well,  if
       that  were  not true, at least for some people, this panel probably
       would not have happened.)  Eggleton  said  that  the  Japanese  are
       really  into  the  idea  of the "inner child," so the best Godzilla
       films are made for the child in us.

       The rest of the time was just general reminiscences and  a  mention
       of the _K_a_i_j_u _R_e_v_i_e_w fanzine.

       (Shortly after Boskone, Mark and  I  saw  the  original  _G_o_d_z_i_l_l_a--
       before  they  chopped  out a bunch of stuff and added Raymond Burr.
       The original is very different from the American version.)

                                 The Green Room

       Unfortunately, there were no really  interesting  conversations  in
       the  Green  Room this year.  Last year, for example, I came in just
       in time to hear Esther Friesner say, "Do you have any idea how  big
       a  walrus's  penis  is?!"   I  guess  the  era  of great Green Room
       conversations is passing along with other old Boskone traditions.














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                                     Leaving

       Leaving was much easier this year--no dead battery.  We skipped the
       Traveler  Restaurant  Book Cellar; the gimmick of "a free book with
       every meal" is cute, but the books are of the sort one  would  find
       at  the  end  of  the  day  in  a  rummage  sale  and  the  food is
       undistinguished.   Instead  we  ate   at   a   Chinese   restaurant
       recommended by Jim Mann--okay, but nothing great.

                                  Miscellaneous

       (If I went to fewer panels this year, why is my report  15%  _l_o_n_g_e_r
       than last year's?)

       Membership seems to have _f_i_r_m_l_y settled in around 900, in spite  of
       the  return to the Boston area.  Framingham is still not convenient
       enough to public transportation to show a really big increase  over
       Springfield.

       Next year for Boskone 32 (February 17-19, 1995) the Guest of  Honor
       is Diana Wynne Jones.


                                          Mark Leeper
                                          MT 3D-441 908-957-5619
                                          leeper@mtgzfs3.att.com



            The typical American of today has lost all the love of
            liberty that his forefathers had, and all their digust
            of emotion, and pride in self-reliance.  He is led no
            longer by Davy Crocketts; he is led by cheer leaders,
            press agents, word-mongers, uplifters.
                                          -- H. L. Mencken